[Heb-NACO] Avi Primor's Suss und ehrenvoll

[Joseph Galron-Goldschlaeger]

The book by Avi Primor was written in Hebrew and translated into
German by Beate
Esther von Schwarze
See Avi Promor's page in the Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature

https://library.osu.edu/projects/hebrew-lexicon/02863.php

The book was was translated into German from an Hebrew manuscript. The
Hebrew edition was published two years later.

Yossi


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Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschlaeger
Head, Hebraica & Jewish Studies  Library
and Acting German Language and Literature Librarian
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On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Robert M. TALBOTT <
rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> HI:
>
> I'm pretty sure I did the work on this.
>
> Translations will not always say they are translations, but are never
> the less.  In this case, I understood the inclusion of "Suss und
> Ehrenvoll copyright 2014 first published in Germany" on the t.p. verso
> to be a pretty cut and dried assertion of translation-ness.  If you
> have data that counters this, then by all means correct.
>
> Generally speaking, the first published language version of a work is
> treated as the base language, even if it was translated into that
> language.  Since the German was published first, I would say that that
> should regarded as the base language, even if it was translated from a
> Hebrew manuscript.
>
> I can't explain the 050, and I'd like to assume I had a reason, but I
> don't remember.  It may just be an error. Again, if it's wrong, then
> correct.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Netanel Ganin <nganin at brandeis.edu>
> wrote:
> > Hey crew,
> >
> > I have Avi Primor's Milḥamah ha-gedolah shel Ludṿig ṿe-Luʼi sitting in
> > front of me (OCLC 909000876) and the record is pcc so I'm inclined to
> trust
> > it, but I'm just confused by something:
> >
> > There's a 240 of "Süss und ehrenvoll. ǂl Hebrew" indicating that this
> is a
> > translation from the German into the Hebrew, but nothing on the book
> > indicates that it was translated. Furthermore, the call number is a PJ
> > number, but if it were a translation from the German, it should be a PT
> > number, no?
> >
> > The publication date is 775, 2015. I mention the date because I dug up
> (OCLC
> > 861198812) which was pubbed in 2013,
> >
> > Here, the 245 (no 240 at all) says: Süss und ehrenvoll : ǂb Roman / ǂc
> Avi
> > Primor ; aus dem Hebräischen von Beate Esther von Schwarze.
> >
> > So this earlier book is claiming it was translated from the Hebrew into
> > German!
> >
> > Any thoughts on untangling this thorny knot?
> >
> > Netanel Ganin
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Metadata Coordinator -- Hebrew Specialty
> > Brandeis University
> > (781) 736-4645 / nganin at brandeis.edu
> >
> > My pronouns are he/him/his
> >
> >
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>
> --
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>
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>
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>
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