[Heb-NACO] Avi Primor's Suss und ehrenvoll

Thu Jul 7 16:38:08 EDT 2016

HI:

I'm pretty sure I did the work on this.

Translations will not always say they are translations, but are never
the less.  In this case, I understood the inclusion of "Suss und
Ehrenvoll copyright 2014 first published in Germany" on the t.p. verso
to be a pretty cut and dried assertion of translation-ness.  If you
have data that counters this, then by all means correct.

Generally speaking, the first published language version of a work is
treated as the base language, even if it was translated into that
language.  Since the German was published first, I would say that that
should regarded as the base language, even if it was translated from a
Hebrew manuscript.

I can't explain the 050, and I'd like to assume I had a reason, but I
don't remember.  It may just be an error. Again, if it's wrong, then
correct.

Bob

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Netanel Ganin <nganin at brandeis.edu> wrote:
> Hey crew,
>
> I have Avi Primor's Milḥamah ha-gedolah shel Ludṿig ṿe-Luʼi sitting in
> front of me (OCLC 909000876) and the record is pcc so I'm inclined to trust
> it, but I'm just confused by something:
>
> There's a 240 of "Süss und ehrenvoll. ǂl Hebrew" indicating that this is a
> translation from the German into the Hebrew, but nothing on the book
> indicates that it was translated. Furthermore, the call number is a PJ
> number, but if it were a translation from the German, it should be a PT
> number, no?
>
> The publication date is 775, 2015. I mention the date because I dug up (OCLC
> 861198812) which was pubbed in 2013,
>
> Here, the 245 (no 240 at all) says: Süss und ehrenvoll : ǂb Roman / ǂc Avi
> Primor ; aus dem Hebräischen von Beate Esther von Schwarze.
>
> So this earlier book is claiming it was translated from the Hebrew into
> German!
>
> Any thoughts on untangling this thorny knot?
>
> Netanel Ganin
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