[Heb-NACO] FW: Name authority question

[Kolodney, Uri]

Regarding Rachel Simon's question about using email address while establishing a NAR.
Uri

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From: Heidi G Lerner<mailto:lerner at stanford.edu>
Sent: ‎9/‎3/‎2015 20:13
To: Kolodney, Uri<mailto:kolodney at austin.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Name authority question


HI Uri,


Mea culpa. I had located an email with a similar question in 2006 and found that Bob Talbott had responded to it. I contacted him to see if he still has some e-mail correspondence regarding that issue that he had also brought up and this is what he wrote me:


On the other hand, I do recall an issue that came up with using
portions of email addresses, and 2006 seems about the right time
frame.  The matter was simple: if the only form of the name in Latin
script was a plausibly full-ish form worked into an email address,
then it was permisable to use it as a cross-reference, but not as a
prominent romanized form.

For example, a book by פלוני אלמוני comes across my desk.  The only
romanized form is an email address: Plony Almony.  Joan's decision was
that "Almony, Plony" was fit for a cross-reference, but didn't meet
the standards for prominence and shouldn't be used as a heading.

I hope that's it because I don't recall anything else.


I am going to post the query to PCC right now because it is an issue that goes beyond the Hebraica community. I will cc you on the correspondence.


Best, Heidi





Heidi G. Lerner

Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica

Metadata Dept.

Stanford University Libraries

Stanford, CA 94305-6004

ph: 650-725-9953

fax: 650-725-1120

e-mail: lerner at stanford.edu


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From: Kolodney, Uri <kolodney at austin.utexas.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 3:30 PM
To: Heidi G Lerner
Subject: RE: Name authority question


Heidi,

I didn’t see that question on the Heb-NACO list, so I’m not sure if you have posted it or not…

Let me know if you’d prefer I’ll do that myself :)

Thanks,

Uri



From: Heidi G Lerner [mailto:lerner at stanford.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 3:53 PM
To: Kolodney, Uri <kolodney at austin.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Name authority question



It will be interesting to hear what people say.

I will try and get a query out later today or tomorrow morning.

 Best, Heidi



Heidi G. Lerner

Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica

Metadata Dept.

Stanford University Libraries

Stanford, CA 94305-6004

ph: 650-725-9953

fax: 650-725-1120

e-mail: lerner at stanford.edu<mailto:lerner at stanford.edu>



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From: Kolodney, Uri <kolodney at austin.utexas.edu<mailto:kolodney at austin.utexas.edu>>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 1:48 PM
To: Heidi G Lerner
Subject: RE: Name authority question



Sure, I don’t mind at all.

My thinking is the same as the latter part of your message. If she ‘calls’ herself “leah.bernstein” in the email address, and לאה ברנשטיין in Hebrew, we could use “Leah Bernstein” as the heading….

Thanks,

Uri



From: Heidi G Lerner [mailto:lerner at stanford.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 3:38 PM
To: Kolodney, Uri <kolodney at austin.utexas.edu<mailto:kolodney at austin.utexas.edu>>
Subject: Re: Name authority question



Hi Uri,



I don't really have an answer for that. There is nothing in RDA which specifies whether we can or cannot use parts of e-mail address for headings.

On the one hand, those forms of  names are constructed as strings and do not really present the form of the name as it would be written. On the other hand if we have the form of the name in Hebrew we can "construct" the romanized form based on the letters used in the e-mail address.

If you don't mind, I will post the question to the PCClist and also Heb-NACO.

best, HEidi



Heidi G. Lerner

Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica

Metadata Dept.

Stanford University Libraries

Stanford, CA 94305-6004

ph: 650-725-9953

fax: 650-725-1120

e-mail: lerner at stanford.edu<mailto:lerner at stanford.edu>



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From: Kolodney, Uri <kolodney at austin.utexas.edu<mailto:kolodney at austin.utexas.edu>>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:44 PM
To: Heidi G Lerner
Subject: Name authority question



Heidi,

I have a book in which the only romanized form appears within an email address. Could that be considered as the 100??

See attached. *I will of course submit a full NAR, but wanted to ask you first so I’d know how to construct it.

Thanks,

Uri



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Uri Kolodney

Non-Roman Processing Unit, Head

Hebrew & Jewish Studies Librarian / Acting Librarian for Russian & Slavic Studies

University of Texas Libraries

The University of Texas at Austin

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