[Heb-NACO] generic name title authorities?

Rose Shoshanah Seidman sseidman at northwestern.edu
Wed Oct 22 13:41:32 EDT 2014


Sooooo right !!!

Shoshanah

From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Yossi Galron
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 12:38 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] generic name title authorities?

What a waste of time, energy and computer bits.

So does it mean that we need to prepare an Authority record for each booklet of poetry that Joe Smith is publishing every Monday and Thursday with a preferred [i.e. Uniform] title: "Poems. Selections (year, month, day)" ?
Isn't easier just to have the title of the compilation [i.e. book]?

Long live the growing backlogs ....

Yossi



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On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Heidi G Lerner <lerner at stanford.edu<mailto:lerner at stanford.edu>> wrote:
Hi Bob,

Yes, example 1 was the practice under AACR2 and is incorrect in RDA

The rules have changed in RDA. According to RDA 6.4:
Date of work is a core element to identify a treaty. Date of work is also a core element when needed to differentiate a work from another work with the same title or from the name of a person, family, or corporate body. [http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/revision201204link.png] <http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdarev201204&target=r201204-102#r201204-102>

According to appendix E 1.2.5:
Enclose a word, phrase, DATE, or other designation used for conflict resolution in parentheses.

(In the case of sacred works we precede the year of publication of a sacred scripture by a full stop and a space)


So under RDA the second and third examples are each considered different works. I just had this situation the other day, see below:
010  no2013044403
040  CSt-HC ǂb eng ǂe rda ǂc CSt-HC ǂd CSt
1001 Someck, Ronny. ǂt Works. ǂk Selections (2012)
4001 Someck, Ronny. ǂt Agam ha-barbaruim
670  Someck, Ronny. Agam ha-barbaruim, 2012.

010  no2014137325
040  CSt-HC ǂb eng ǂe rda ǂc CSt-HC ǂd CSt-HC
1001 Someck, Ronny. ǂt Works. ǂk Selections (2014)
4001 Someck, Ronny. ǂt Roni Someḳ seriṭah be-marpeḳ ha-shirah
670  Someck, Ronny. Roni Someḳ seriṭah be-marpeḳ ha-shirah, 2014.

Note that LC and PCC practice require that catalogers add date to any conventional collective title that begins with Works  even if we don't need to break conflict.

Best, Heidi


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From: "Robert M. TALBOTT" <rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu<mailto:rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu>>
To: "Hebrew Name Authority Funnel" <heb-naco at lists.service.ohio-state.edu<mailto:heb-naco at lists.service.ohio-state.edu>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:41:54 PM
Subject: [Heb-NACO] generic name title authorities?


Folks:

I just ran into an RDA name title authority set up for two works, to wit

[name]. $t Poems. $k Selections
[name]. $t Work 1
[name]. $t Work 2

I was under the impression that the above was a thing of the past and that RDA insisted upon the following:

record 1
[name]. $t Poems. $k Selections
[name]. $t Work 1

record 2
[name]. $t Poems. $k Selections (distinguishing term)
[name]. $t Work 2

Am I wrong?  Are both situations possible?

B


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