[Heb-NACO] Li-fene ha-nesi'ah

Jasmin Nof jnof at upenn.edu
Wed Sep 5 15:08:01 EDT 2012


Re: li-fene, it follows the "little word" construction as instructed in 
HCM.  However, it now appears as its own dictionary entry (albeit with a 
parenthetical explanation of lamed + panim).  Joan, should our practice 
be changed to lifne?

Barry, regarding a preposition being an "integral part", as far as I 
know it doesn't make a difference; unless the word with the preposition 
appears on its own in the dictionary, it's still considered a "little 
word" and is separated from the main word with a hyphen.

Jasmin

On 9/5/2012 2:53 PM, Robert Talbott wrote:
> I'll let someone else field the Li-fene question, but as far as 
> Pitedah is concerned:  there's a sheva there because tet and dalet are 
> both dentals, per the practice noted on p. 11 of Maher in the case of 
> "mitpalelim."  I suppose that would be a sheva na'.  The sheva is our 
> friend, and it's here to help.
>
> My two cents, I defer to Those Who Know, etc. etc.
>
> Bob
>
> On 9/5/2012 9:26 AM, Barry Walfish wrote:
>>
>> Dear Safranim,
>>
>> I have two questions about the romanization in the record for this 
>> title by Rivka Miriam and Meir Appelfeld (Raananah Even Hoshen, 
>> 2011). LCN 2011483420.
>>
>> First, li-fene. Why not lifne? It seems to me that this is a word of 
>> which the preposition is an integral part.
>>
>> Second, the series Pitedah. Why not Pitdah. There is no dagesh in the 
>> tet and the sheva is nah.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>>
>> Barry
>>
>> Barry Dov Walfish, Ph.D.
>>
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