[Heb-NACO] pitedah vs. pitdah

[Stanley Nachamie]

I think I remember from this summer's convention, Joan said she was giving up the battle, and letting people romanize words like "agadta" as "agadeta."
-Stanley Nachamie

From: Jasmin Nof <jnof at upenn.edu>
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Li-fene ha-nesi'ah


Re: li-fene, it follows the "little word" construction as instructed in HCM.  However, it now appears as its own dictionary entry (albeit with a parenthetical explanation of lamed + panim).  Joan, should our practice be changed to lifne?  

Barry, regarding a preposition being an "integral part", as far as I know it doesn't make a difference; unless the word with the preposition appears on its own in the dictionary, it's still considered a "little word" and is separated from the main word with a hyphen.

Jasmin

On 9/5/2012 2:53 PM, Robert Talbott wrote:

I'll let someone else field the Li-fene question, but as far as Pitedah is concerned:  there's a sheva there because tet and dalet are both dentals, per the practice noted on p. 11 of Maher in the case of "mitpalelim."  I suppose that would be a sheva na'.  The sheva is our friend, and it's here to help.
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>My two cents, I defer to Those Who Know, etc. etc. 
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>Bob
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>On 9/5/2012 9:26 AM, Barry Walfish wrote:
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>Dear Safranim,
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>>I have two questions about the romanization in the record for this title by Rivka Miriam and Meir Appelfeld (Raananah Even Hoshen, 2011). LCN 2011483420.
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>>First, li-fene. Why not lifne? It seems to me that this is a word of which the preposition is an integral part.
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>>Second, the series Pitedah. Why not Pitdah. There is no dagesh in the tet and the sheva is nah.
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>>Thanks for your help,
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>>Barry
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