[Heb-NACO] [EXT] - romanization: שם ועבר

[Shinohara, Jasmin]

Thank you for the Divre ha-yamim reference, Cliff. It is found as a pair in Rashi<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.sefaria.org/Rashi_on_Genesis.25.22.1?vhe=Pentateuch_with_Rashi*27s_commentary_by_M._Rosenbaum_and_A.M._Silbermann,_1929-1934&lang=he__;JQ!!IBzWLUs!XVoalnD7Xz6QsjrEjfJoveh6CiKJPfFNJny1ut72Brqmrms5-W2JvdQHmJRv9tw4W8MEIeImoOz9xBqX$> on Be-reshit 25:22, which is vocalized with the kamats.

I have added the pair to the Fixed expressions wiki page<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://rascat.pbworks.com/w/page/7836006/Fixed*20Expressions*view=page__;JSM!!KGKeukY!xkNdqe21duB4EfKxRKfsnUOWgUafKSdmwFQl7t9jlIZ7d-9tYIHjgx7-DSep_DdmpfiGd8e_wfBkRu4IewKKsQ$ >.

Kol tuv, Jasmin

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Marlene, The two names do not appear as a pair in the Bible, as they do in Talmud and Midrash (which have no sacred vocalization) The name Ever does appear with the conjunctive vav in First Chronicles 5. 13, vocalized with a kamets, just as
Marlene,
The two names do not appear as a pair in the Bible, as they do in Talmud and Midrash (which have no sacred vocalization)
The name Ever does appear with the conjunctive vav in First Chronicles 5.13, vocalized with a kamets, just as you surmised.
Shanah tovah u-metukah,
Clifford Miller

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Hi Jasmin, Quick question: Shem ve-Ever? Shem va-Ever? I found 2 records on LC that have it both ways—naturally! Does it follow the pattern of Yom va-lailah? Thanks, חג שמח MRS Marlene Schiffman Metadata and Services Department Gottesman Library
Hi Jasmin,
Quick question: Shem ve-Ever?
Shem va-Ever?
I found 2 records on LC that have it both ways—naturally!
Does it follow the pattern of Yom va-lailah?
Thanks, חג שמח
MRS

Marlene Schiffman
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Hello, friends, and shanah ṭovah! The above title, on 1289500403, is correctly romanized Ben yatsivut le-mahpekhah : ʻaśor la-Aviv ha-ʻArvi (instead of the current Ben yetsivut la-mahapekhah : ʻaśor le-Aviv ha-ʻAravi). Fixed fields and other
Hello, friends, and shanah ṭovah!

The above title, on 1289500403, is correctly romanized Ben yatsivut le-mahpekhah : ʻaśor la-Aviv ha-ʻArvi (instead of the current Ben yetsivut la-mahapekhah : ʻaśor le-Aviv ha-ʻAravi). Fixed fields and other fields were corrected/added.

For the 16 libraries with holdings on the title, you may wish to update your local records.

Please let me know if there are any questions.

(All three words, יציבות, מהפכה, ערבי, are in the romanization FAQ. LC was notified separately)

Thanks, Jasmin

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