[Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Re: Romanization of ההונן

[Taub, Jeremiah Aaron]

Dear All,

In terms of capitalization, LC romanizes as ha-Ḥonen le-Adam Daʻat.

Best,
A

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For some our newer colleagues and those less familiar with liturgical texts, it may not be so obvious.



The expressionהחונן לאדם דעת , ha-.honen le-adam da‘at, is from the weekdayעמידה /‘Amidah<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amidah__;!!KGKeukY!wDXLAA_15wJS7EHwAyggQ5syECXDJhhbbt1jKPwtydQI6yJ8Vws_8P7vhb6QkRzC15lczBv6CmirO4iBLmwZu4UQ$> prayer, where the fourth berakhah<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/**G_**G_**G__;15HXqNeb16rXl9eV16DXn9eU15PXoteq!!KGKeukY!wDXLAA_15wJS7EHwAyggQ5syECXDJhhbbt1jKPwtydQI6yJ8Vws_8P7vhb6QkRzC15lczBv6CmirO4iBLs-yPRUR$> is



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The title page sure looks like a heh, but it is obviously ha-h. onen le-adam da'at with a het. Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device Get Outlook for Android From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces+schiffma=yu. edu@ lists. osu. edu> on behalf of Galron,

The title page sure looks like a heh, but it is obviously ha-h.onen le-adam da'at with a het.



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Lili,

It is החונן – ha-.honen



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kol tsoholah 1. pdf Hi all, Hopping on the Romanization help train here. Thanks in advance for your time and assistance! I'm cataloging a reproduction of ספר קול צהלה (original OCLC: #500291215) and am stuck on the word ההונן in the subtitle. 

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Hi all,



Hopping on the Romanization help train here. Thanks in advance for your time and assistance!



I'm cataloging a reproduction of ספר קול צהלה (original OCLC: #500291215) and am stuck on the word ההונן in the subtitle. I've attached the title page - as you can see, the reproduction isn't crystal clear, but I feel certain that the spelling is ההונן rather than one of the ה's being a ח, but I could definitely be wrong. A keyword search of this word didn't lend me any results, and I can't seem to track it down in Even Shoshan (pages I consulted also attached).



In context, the whole subtitle phrase makes me think it is a sort of conjugation or (mis?)spelling of הון, so my best guess at the Romanization is ha-honan.



Curious what others think and would appreciate any perspectives!



Best,

Lili



P.S. - if anyone can't view the PDF attachment, let me know. I originally attached it to the email as a separate file (versus a OneDrive link), but the listserv said it was too big a file to send out. My apologies if that means this email went out twice...!



Lili Brown (she/her)

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