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<p class="MsoNormal">In terms of capitalization, LC romanizes as ha-Ḥonen le-Adam Daʻat.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Lili Brown via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 28, 2023 3:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino@upenn.edu>; Marlene Schiffman <schiffma@yu.edu>; heb-naco <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>; Galron, Joseph <galron.1@osu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Re: Romanization of <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">
ההונן</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">Thanks Yossi, Marlene, and Jasmin for the swift and clear assistance! From: Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino@ upenn. edu> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 11: 42 AM To: Marlene
Schiffman <schiffma@ yu. edu>; heb-naco <heb-naco@ lists. osu. edu>; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks Yossi, Marlene, and Jasmin for the swift and clear assistance!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Shinohara, Jasmin <<a href="mailto:jshino@upenn.edu">jshino@upenn.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 28, 2023 11:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marlene Schiffman <<a href="mailto:schiffma@yu.edu">schiffma@yu.edu</a>>; heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>>; Galron, Joseph <<a href="mailto:galron.1@osu.edu">galron.1@osu.edu</a>>; Lili Brown <<a href="mailto:ljbrown@stanford.edu">ljbrown@stanford.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Re: Romanization of <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">
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<p class="xmsonormal">For some our newer colleagues and those less familiar with liturgical texts, it may not be so obvious.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">The expression<span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">החונן לאדם דעת
</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>, ha-.honen le-adam da‘at, is from the weekday<span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">עמידה</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL"> </span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>/‘<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amidah__;!!KGKeukY!wDXLAA_15wJS7EHwAyggQ5syECXDJhhbbt1jKPwtydQI6yJ8Vws_8P7vhb6QkRzC15lczBv6CmirO4iBLmwZu4UQ$">Amidah</a>
prayer, where the fourth <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/**G_**G_**G__;15HXqNeb16rXl9eV16DXn9eU15PXoteq!!KGKeukY!wDXLAA_15wJS7EHwAyggQ5syECXDJhhbbt1jKPwtydQI6yJ8Vws_8P7vhb6QkRzC15lczBv6CmirO4iBLs-yPRUR$">
berakhah</a> is <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b>From:</b> Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 28, 2023 2:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Galron, Joseph <<a href="mailto:galron.1@osu.edu">galron.1@osu.edu</a>>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>>; Lili Brown <<a href="mailto:ljbrown@stanford.edu">ljbrown@stanford.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Re: Romanization of <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">The title page sure looks like a heh, but it is obviously ha-h. onen le-adam da'at with a het. Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device Get Outlook for Android From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces+schiffma=yu. edu@ lists. osu. edu>
on behalf of Galron, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">The title page sure looks like a heh, but it is obviously ha-h.onen le-adam da'at with a het.
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Get <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/aka.ms/AAb9ysg__;!!KGKeukY!xkyo9FsJyaQiAED_Skwtd3r5xEACWXCl0c8Y6kHMySs6wEBFoPpivq8nx0VEtUu2H6cKrypliRzevUaE-FRcGQ$">
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Heb-naco <</span><a href="mailto:heb-naco-bounces+schiffma=yu.edu@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco-bounces+schiffma=yu.edu@lists.osu.edu</a><span style="color:black">> on behalf
of Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco <</span><a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a><span style="color:black">><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 28, 2023 1:48:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lili Brown <</span><a href="mailto:ljbrown@stanford.edu">ljbrown@stanford.edu</a><span style="color:black">>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <</span><a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a><span style="color:black">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] - Re: [Heb-NACO] Romanization of <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">
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<p class="xxmsonormal">Lili,<span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xxmsonormal">It is <span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
החונן</span><span lang="HE" dir="RTL"> </span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>– ha-.honen<span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xxmsonormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xxmsonormal">See<span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.hebrewbooks.org/34826__;!!KGKeukY!xkyo9FsJyaQiAED_Skwtd3r5xEACWXCl0c8Y6kHMySs6wEBFoPpivq8nx0VEtUu2H6cKrypliRzevUZSVHi-LQ$"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">https://www.hebrewbooks.org/34826</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal">Yossi<span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><b>From:</b> Heb-naco <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lili Brown via Heb-naco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 28, 2023 1:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</span></a></span><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] Romanization of <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">ההונן</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">kol tsoholah 1. pdf Hi all, Hopping on the Romanization help train here. Thanks in advance for your time and assistance! I'm cataloging a reproduction of
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL">ספר קול צהלה </span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>(original OCLC: #500291215) and am stuck on the word
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/office365stanford-my.sharepoint.com/:b:/g/personal/ljbrown_stanford_edu/EVdXZ2sxVUJOuMbErF8xKKUBZG0d-2xD53PdBL286CI4kQ__;!!KGKeukY!wOYQzpQLEVByZlIEzR4T5CNa4BIHkaX6Bha4sPV20J3DG1mAfHN4U-533GunYXRgMtjpmvUYewGjFIi2P09HnQlU$"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#F3F2F1;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="100" height="100" style="width:1.0416in;height:1.0416in" id="x_x_Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image005.jpg@01D9C926.55392950" alt="Image removed by sender."></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;background:#F3F2F1">kol
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="color:black">Hi all,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="color:black">Hopping on the Romanization help train here. Thanks in advance for your time and assistance!
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="color:black">I'm cataloging a reproduction of
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL">ספר קול צהלה </span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>(original OCLC: #500291215) and am stuck on the word
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL">ההונן </span>in the subtitle. I've attached the title page - as you can see, the reproduction isn't crystal clear, but I feel certain that the spelling is
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL">ההונן </span>rather than one of the <span lang="HE" dir="RTL">
ה</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>'s being a
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL">ח</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>, but I could definitely be wrong. A keyword search of this word didn't lend me any results, and I can't seem to track it down in Even
Shoshan (pages I consulted also attached). </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="color:black">In context, the whole subtitle phrase makes me think it is a sort of conjugation or (mis?)spelling of
<span lang="HE" dir="RTL">הון</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>, so my best guess at the Romanization is ha-honan.
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="color:black">Curious what others think and would appreciate any perspectives!</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="color:black">Best,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="color:black">Lili</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="color:black">P.S. - if anyone can't view the PDF attachment, let me know. I originally attached it to the email as a separate file (versus a OneDrive link), but the listserv said it was too big a file to send out. My apologies
if that means this email went out twice...!</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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