[Heb-NACO] How would your Romanize the following word

Rose Shoshanah Seidman sseidman at northwestern.edu
Thu Jun 13 19:50:24 EDT 2019


True Joan unless you are French and then you put the emphasis on the second syllable juLIET, ie being pronounced as a diphthong

Shoshanah

On Jun 13, 2019, at 3:05 PM, Joan Biella via Heb-naco <heb-naco at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>> wrote:

Seems everyone has his/her own idea of the “problem” with this name (or in Aaron’s case, with the whole romanization system).  As you all know, I have my own habit of slavishly following the “rules” as far as possible, in the hope that if everyone else does the same, we’ll all get the same results.  My problem with the name “Juliet” is that there are at least two acceptable English pronunciations of it, JU-lee-et and JUL-yet.  The second sounds “British” to me.  The Hebrew characters can support either. Choose one and make a reference with the other.

Joan

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On Jun 13, 2019, at 5:38 AM, Kuperman, Aaron via Heb-naco <heb-naco at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>> wrote:

It is interesting that it appears that Hebrew-speakers with that name tend to Romanize it, and apparently pronounce it, as it is pronounced in western language, meaning the first letter is a “J”.   We really should be asking what value it is to have a rule that requires making a Romanization that is unintelligible to (non-cataloger) users of our metadata. Hebrew is a living language, and we have rules for dealing with foreign (non-Hebrew)  names more appropriate for Latin or Sumerian.

Aaron Kuperman, LC Law Cataloging Section.
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From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu>> On Behalf Of Yossi Galron via Heb-naco
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 8:18 PM
To: Gottschalk, Haim <hgot at loc.gov<mailto:hgot at loc.gov>>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] How would your Romanize the following word

The problem is that there are two ways to write this name:
ז'ולייט
ג'ולייט
Both forms are Kosher.



On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 20:12 Gottschalk, Haim via Heb-naco <heb-naco at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>> wrote:
Dear Friends,

How would you Romanize the name  - ז'ולייט? Would you a. Z’uliyeṭ or b. Z’uleṭ or c. ?

Thanks,
Haim

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