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<div dir="ltr">True Joan unless you are French and then you put the emphasis on the second syllable juLIET, ie being pronounced as a diphthong </div>
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On Jun 13, 2019, at 3:05 PM, Joan Biella via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Seems everyone has his/her own idea of the “problem” with this name (or in Aaron’s case, with the whole romanization system). As you all know, I have my own habit of slavishly following the “rules” as far as possible, in the hope that if everyone
else does the same, we’ll all get the same results. My problem with the name “Juliet” is that there are at least two acceptable English pronunciations of it, JU-lee-et and JUL-yet. The second sounds “British” to me. The Hebrew characters can support either.
Choose one and make a reference with the other.
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On Jun 13, 2019, at 5:38 AM, Kuperman, Aaron via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It is interesting that it appears that Hebrew-speakers with that name tend to Romanize it, and apparently pronounce it, as it is pronounced in western language,
meaning the first letter is a “J”. We really should be asking what value it is to have a rule that requires making a Romanization that is unintelligible to (non-cataloger) users of our metadata. Hebrew is a living language, and we have rules for dealing
with foreign (non-Hebrew) names more appropriate for Latin or Sumerian.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Aaron Kuperman, LC Law Cataloging Section.
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 12, 2019 8:18 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heb-NACO] How would your Romanize the following word<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The problem is that there are two ways to write this name:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HE" dir="RTL">ז'ולייט </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 20:12 Gottschalk, Haim via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="HE" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">ז'ולייט</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>? Would you a. Z’uliyeṭ or b. Z’uleṭ or c. ?
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