[Heb-NACO] Nokhehim? Nokhhim?

[Robert M. TALBOTT]

I'm not sure I understand.  From what I've gleaned from Maher, when a sheva
falls under a consonant that follows a vowel, it's understood as a sheva
nah as far as our romanization scheme goes, thus "nokhhim."



On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Heidi G Lerner <lerner at stanford.edu> wrote:

> We have historically provided a simple rule for romanizing Hebrew because
> we cannot assume that all Hebraica catalogers who are required to romanize
> have a strong background in דקדוק.
>
>
> And that rule, encoded in two editions of Hebraica cataloging is to follow
> the vocalization in the most recent edition of Even-Shoshan and Alkalay.
> Both of these dictionaries have a "sheva" under the "כ". Thus we do as
> Yossi says we do.
>
>
> "nokheḥut".
>
>
> Thanks, Heidi
>
>
> Heidi G. Lerner
>
> Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica
>
> Metadata Dept.
>
> Stanford University Libraries
>
> Stanford, CA 94305-6004
>
> ph: 650-725-9953 <(650)%20725-9953>
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> ------------------------------
> *From:* Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces+lerner=stanford.edu at lists.osu.edu> on
> behalf of Joan Biella <jbiella2632 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 8:31 PM
> *To:* Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
> *Subject:* Re: [Heb-NACO] Nokhehim? Nokhhim?
>
> Yossi knows us well.  I don't think you'll find a rule in the HCM even now
> that would justify an /e/ between the khaf and the het, no matter how they
> have to be pronounced.
>
> Joan
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Yossi Galron <jgalron at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>> Hebrew is a living language. I don't know the grammatical rule (Sheva na?
>> Sheva merahef?), but modern Hebrew speakers are saying Nokhehim. Try to
>> pronounce two Khaf or  Het sounds without a vowel between them.
>> I know my answer will not satisfy you. Maybe someone on the list will be
>> more satisfying.
>> Happy Passover/Easter
>> Yossi
>>
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2017 21:10, "Robert M. TALBOTT" <rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Yossi Galron <jgalron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nohekhim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 17, 2017 18:22, "Robert M. TALBOTT" <
>>>> rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Folks:
>>>>>
>>>>> Does נוכחים follow the pattern of lomdim (nokh[dot]him) or the pattern
>>>>> of mitpalelim (mokhe[dot]him)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> B
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bob Talbott
>>>>>
>>>>> Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger
>>>>>
>>>>> UC Berkeley
>>>>>
>>>>> 250 Moffitt
>>>>>
>>>>> Berkeley, CA 94720
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm just mad about Saffron
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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-- 
Bob Talbott

Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger

UC Berkeley

250 Moffitt

Berkeley, CA 94720

I'm just mad about Saffron
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