[Heb-NACO] romanization of כמעט
Shinohara, Jasmin
jshino at pobox.upenn.edu
Thu Jun 30 10:21:43 EDT 2016
Thank you so much for weighing in, Joan! Ki-me'at it is. (LC, please take note…)
With a hat-tip to Rachel Simon, there is such a list of Romanization FAQ’s<http://library.princeton.edu/departments/tsd/katmandu/hebrew/roman/errors.html> (it’s now also linked on the wiki), but it does need to be updated to reflect the latest E-Sh. (specifically, מעין, which as of the 2012 update is now ma'ayan). Rachel, would you please consider adding ki-me'at to the list?
Jasmin
From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jshino=pobox.upenn.edu at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Joan Biella
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 9:03 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of כמעט
If you can find the word by looking under both K and M, then you romanize according to the "more analytical" interpretation--ki-me'at in this case--so that a search under "me'at" will discover the phrase.
The same words cause trouble over and over. Perhaps we should have a list of "words frequently misromanized," which of course would have to be checked and re-checked whenever a new Even-Shoshan edition comes out!
This might give some romanizers added confidence ... but I realize others would never think to consult the list.
Joan
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino at pobox.upenn.edu<mailto:jshino at pobox.upenn.edu>> wrote:
If anything, it’s a sheva ha-merahef (לעניות דעתי), but that doesn’t address the question of whether or not the כ is here as a “little word”.
From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jshino<mailto:heb-naco-bounces%2Bjshino>=pobox.upenn.edu at lists.osu.edu<mailto:pobox.upenn.edu at lists.osu.edu>] On Behalf Of Yossi Galron
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 6:07 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of כמעט
Okay - I have to consult גדולים וחכמים ממני if it is a שווא נע or a שווא נח
I guess if it is a שווא נח then it will be Kim'at and not Ki-me'at
Yossi
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On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino at pobox.upenn.edu<mailto:jshino at pobox.upenn.edu>> wrote:
I agree, but most of the entries in LC since 2012 have kim’at. Hence the question.
From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu>] On Behalf Of Yossi Galron
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 5:53 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of כמעט
So the question is: Should it be Ki-me'at, or Kime'at?
I think it should be Ki-me'at - the entry in E.Sh. under מעט is much more elaborate then half the line under כמעט
(The same is also in the מילון אריאל המקיף of 2007)
Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschläger
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On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino at pobox.upenn.edu<mailto:jshino at pobox.upenn.edu>> wrote:
E-Sh. now has an entry for the word as itself, though it maintains a “see” reference to מעט. Do we consider this to be a changed Romanization? If so, I’ll add it to the chart on the wiki.
Thanks, Jasmin
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