[Heb-NACO] Shelita in name headings--not a good idea

[Miriam Gloger]

My suggestion is not to use שליט"א  (shelita) or (זצ"ל)  zatsal in name
headings (1xx/4xx) because it is not really part of the name and will
obviously change if shelita!  In the 670 where there is a date of
publication present it could be useful (i.e. that the person was still
alive in the year work was published).

in contrast, ha-Levi/ha-Kohen are parts of a name that don't change

Take a look at how Bar Ilan formed the name
http://sifria2012.lnx.biu.ac.il/F/S86K6DRCY4CP1TP93XBH8GJJD7Q9VUAGLNDR14YSXKC1NF1F94-04899?func=full-set-set&set_number=008956&set_entry=000002&format=001

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Miriam Gloger <miriamgloger at bookops.org>
wrote:

> My suggestion is not to use שליט"א  (shelita) or (זצ"ל)  zatsal in name
> headings (1xx/4xx) because it is not really part of the name and will
> obviously change if shelita!  In the 670 where there is a date of
> publication present it could be useful (i.e. that the person was still
> alive in the year work was published).
>
> in contrast, ha-Levi/ha-Kohen are parts of a name that don't change
>
> Take a look at how Bar Ilan formed the name
>
> http://sifria2012.lnx.biu.ac.il/F/S86K6DRCY4CP1TP93XBH8GJJD7Q9VUAGLNDR14YSXKC1NF1F94-04899?func=full-set-set&set_number=008956&set_entry=000002&format=001
>
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:00 PM, <heb-naco-request at lists.osu.edu> wrote:
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>>    1. Re: Names with "ha-Levi" (Heidi G Lerner)
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>> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 17:12:33 +0000
>> From: Heidi G Lerner <lerner at stanford.edu>
>> To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>
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>> yes, it is valid in $c
>>
>>
>> since you did not have provide any bibliographic information I had no way
>> of knowing when the book was published, if it was published before H?ayim
>> Shelomoh died then "shelilta" would be valid.
>>
>>
>> Heidi G. Lerner
>>
>> Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica
>>
>> Metadata Dept.
>>
>> Stanford University Libraries
>>
>> Stanford, CA 94305-6004
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>> ph: 650-725-9953
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu> on behalf of Rachel
>> Simon <rsimon at Princeton.EDU>
>> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 9:07 AM
>> To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
>> Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Names with "ha-Levi"
>>
>>
>> Since there is a "shelita" following the father's name, it can't be the
>> same Hayim Shelomoh.
>>
>>
>>
>> My question is mainly regarding the "ha-levi": can we still put it in
>> "$c"?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rachel
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+rsimon=
>> princeton.edu at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi G Lerner
>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 12:03 PM
>> To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
>> Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Names with "ha-Levi"
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there any indication in the resource that he is the son of:
>>
>>
>>
>> Horov?its, H?ayim Shelomoh, ?d 1896-1968 (no2010171244)?
>>
>>
>>
>> If he is then I would establish him as:
>>
>>
>>
>> Horov?its, Shraga Shemu?el ben H?ayim Shelomoh,|cha-Lev?i.
>>
>>
>>
>> I did find  genealogical information for Chaim Solomon Horowitz at (
>> http://horwitzfam.org/getperson.php?personID=I5522&tree=complete) and
>> Shraga Shemu?el is not listed as a son.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you cannot find any romanized forms for the father or son, then choose
>> the systematic romanization of ??????? that makes the most sense to you and
>> make cross references from other possible systematic romanization.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best, Heidi
>>
>>
>>
>> Heidi G. Lerner
>>
>> Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica
>>
>> Metadata Dept.
>>
>> Stanford University Libraries
>>
>> Stanford, CA 94305-6004
>>
>> ph: 650-725-9953
>>
>> fax: 650-725-1120
>>
>> e-mail: lerner at stanford.edu<mailto:lerner at stanford.edu>
>>
>>
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>> ________________________________
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>> From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu<mailto:
>> heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu>> on behalf of Rachel Simon
>> <rsimon at Princeton.EDU<mailto:rsimon at Princeton.EDU>>
>> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 7:01 AM
>> To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
>> Subject: [Heb-NACO] Names with "ha-Levi"
>>
>>
>>
>> Where do we now put "ha-Levi" in authorized form of names (e.g. : ????
>> ????? ???? ??????"? ???"? ?' ???? ???? ????"? ??????? ). And since I found
>> him only in Hebrew, should we go with Hurvits? Horvits? Horovits?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rachel
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