[Heb-NACO] יריד: yarid or yerid

Shinohara, Jasmin jshino at pobox.upenn.edu
Thu Aug 11 17:56:02 EDT 2016


Interesting.  Nevertheless, according to HCM2/HCR, our official source is “the most recent edition of Even-Shoshan’s ha-Milon he-hadash” (with qualifications noted, p. 16-17.)  Jasmin

From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Yossi Galron
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 5:48 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] יריד: yarid or yerid

Interesting: On the web site of the Academy I found the following:

2.1.2 משקל פָּעִיל ומשקל פְּעִיל<http://hebrew-academy.org.il/topic/hahlatot/grammardecisions/formation-and-vocalization/2-1-%d7%9e%d7%a9%d7%a7%d7%9c%d7%99%d7%9d/#target-2779>
השמות האלה נשקלים במשקל פָּעִיל: זָקִיף, יָמִין, יָצִיעַ, יָרִיד, כָּפִיל, כָּפִיס, לָהִיט, נָטִיף, נָקִיק, נָתִיךְ, צָעִיף, שָׁבִיס.
השמות האלה נשקלים במשקל פְּעִיל: בְּרִיחַ, הֲלִיךְ, נְגִיף, נְחִיל, נְצִיב, סְעִיף, פְּרִיט, צְמִיג, צְרִיחַ, קְרִישׁ, רְבִיעַ, רְדִיד, רְצִיף, שְׁזִיף, שְׁתִיל.



Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschläger
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On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Barry Walfish <barry.walfish at utoronto.ca<mailto:barry.walfish at utoronto.ca>> wrote:
Rav-milim online has yarid as the main entry but adds:

(נמצא גם הניקוד: יְרִיד).

Barry

Barry Dov Walfish, Ph.D.
Judaica Specialist
University of Toronto Libraries
Toronto, ON M5S 1A5
Canada
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From: Heb-naco [heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu>] on behalf of Shinohara, Jasmin [jshino at pobox.upenn.edu<mailto:jshino at pobox.upenn.edu>]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 5:18 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] יריד: yarid or yerid
Very good.  Thanks for the prompt reply!  Jasmin

From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jshino<mailto:heb-naco-bounces%2Bjshino>=pobox.upenn.edu at lists.osu.edu<mailto:pobox.upenn.edu at lists.osu.edu>] On Behalf Of Yossi Galron
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 5:17 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] יריד: yarid or yerid

I guess it will be Yerid (if we love it or hate it)

I might send a question to the Academy.

Yossi



Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschläger
E-Mail: galron.1 at osu.edu<mailto:galron.1 at osu.edu>  or jgalron at gmail.com<mailto:jgalron at gmail.com>
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Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature: http://go.osu.edu/hebrewlit

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino at pobox.upenn.edu<mailto:jshino at pobox.upenn.edu>> wrote:
Another Romanization question (those who dislike/disagree with the act of Romanization can please feel free to disregard this email):

The word is יריד, a fair.  The current E-Sh. Romanizes it only with a sheva na, making the word “yerid”.  The same for the case of semikhut, יריד-, a sheva under the first yod.  The Alcalay at my desk (1996) has two forms of entry, the first with a kamats followed by the form with a sheva, and the word with a sheva in the case of semikhut.  (Morfix online has only with a kamats.)  Are we considering this a changed Romanization?  Is it now “Yerid omanut Yehudit” and “Yerid ha-ben-leʼumi le-Yudaʼiḳah”, as opposed to the former “Yerid omanut Yehudit” and “Yarid ha-ben-leʼumi le-Yudaʼiḳah”?

Please advise.  Thanks, Jasmin


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