[Heb-NACO] safah berurah

[Joan Biella]

This question has raised its (ugly) head before and been swept under the
carpet (is that a mixed metaphor?), especially with regard to "Mishnah
v/berurah."  I think Cliff Miller will remember.  The "rules" say to
imitate the vocalization of the Bible when the phrase is from the Bible,
but the thought of correcting all the "berurahs" in the database is
daunting, to say nothing of adding the relevant 246s which would be helpful
if not strictly required.

I must leave it to currently practicing catalogers to consult their own
consciences, but a consistent decision would be nice.

Joan

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Robert M. TALBOTT <
rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> Hi Marlene:
>
> Our "one-size-fits-all" approach to romanization renders the phrase as
> "safah berurah," but the title is clearly citing the more nuanced
> rendering of Tsefanyah.  The former in my opinion is valid in all
> instances save in those cases where the Bible is cited, in which case
> the latter applies. However, since the cited form is to say the least
> unexpected to those familiar with Modern Hebrew, I suggest the
> following solution
>
> 245XX  ... safah verurah
>
> 2463     ... safah berurah
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Marlene Schiffman <schiffma at yu.edu>
> wrote:
> > We seem to be in a quandary about Safah berurah vs. Safah verurah.
> >
> > Even-Shoshan says under “barur” that it is verurah and quotes Zephaniah
> 3:9.
> > But under “safah” we find “Safah berurah.”
> >
> > Grammatically I think that berurah follows an open syllable so it
> changes to
> > “v”
> >
> > What is the correct way to romanize it? (Then what happens to Mishnah
> > Berurah?)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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