[Heb-NACO] [PCCLIST] Works. Selections (Date)

[Jasmin Shinohara]

See Stephen Hearn's email from yesterday (3:02PM), where he says:

"Yes, it would be more in keeping with MARC21 to add a date qualifier to 
subfield $p in parentheses without $f when it distinguishes the work 
being named.  In the MARC21 Bib Format under Heading Fields, X30, the 
text distinguishes between "date of publication" added to a uniform 
title field in subfield $f and "Date added parenthetically to 
distinguish between identical uniform titles" without separate subfield 
coding."

As I understand it, when added in parenthesis the date is needed as part 
of the access point for differentiation; in $f it's just added for the 
sake of extra information.

Heidi, do I understand that correctly?

On 11/16/2015 1:56 PM, Judith Zupnick wrote:
>
> What is the difference whether one records the date in subfield f or 
> in parentheses?
>
>
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> *From:* Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu> on behalf of Heidi G 
> Lerner <lerner at stanford.edu>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2015 8:44 AM
> *To:* HebNACO
> *Subject:* [Heb-NACO] Fwd: [PCCLIST] Works. Selections (Date)
> FYI
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> *From:* "Adam L. Schiff" <aschiff at UW.EDU <mailto:aschiff at UW.EDU>>
>> *Date:* November 13, 2015 at 4:03:49 PM EST
>> *To:* <PCCLIST at LISTSERV.LOC.GOV <mailto:PCCLIST at LISTSERV.LOC.GOV>>
>> *Subject:* *[PCCLIST] Works. Selections (Date)*
>> *Reply-To:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging 
>> <PCCLIST at LISTSERV.LOC.GOV <mailto:PCCLIST at LISTSERV.LOC.GOV>>
>>
>> I did a keyword search today in the OCLC authority file for titles 
>> containing the words works, selections, and 2015.  There are records 
>> like these:
>>
>> Ashlag, Yehudah. ǂt Works. ǂk Selections (2015)
>>
>> Dōgen, ǂd 1200-1253. ǂt Works. ǂk Selections (2015)
>>
>> Jano, Jack. ǂt Works. ǂk Selections (2015)
>>
>> Kook, Abraham Isaac, ǂd 1865-1935. ǂt Works. ǂk Selections (2015)
>>
>> Lovecraft, H. P. ǂq (Howard Phillips), ǂd 1890-1937. ǂt Works. ǂk 
>> Selections (2015)
>>
>> But many, many more records like these:
>>
>> Austen, Jane, ǂd 1775-1817. ǂt Works. ǂk Selections. ǂf 2015
>>
>> Benjamin, Walter, ǂd 1892-1940. ǂt Works. ǂk Selections. ǂf 2015
>>
>> Chopin, Kate, ǂd 1850-1904. ǂt Works. ǂk Selections. ǂf 2015
>>
>> Jackson, Shirley, ǂd 1916-1965. ǂt Works. ǂk Selections. ǂf 2015
>>
>> Lawrence, D. H. ǂq (David Herbert), ǂd 1885-1930. ǂt Works. ǂk 
>> Selections. ǂf 2015
>>
>> Madison, James, ǂd 1751-1836. ǂt Works. ǂk Selections. ǂf 2015
>>
>> Man Ray, ǂd 1890-1976. ǂt Works. ǂk Selections. ǂf 2015
>>
>> Noonan, Peggy, ǂd 1950- ǂt Works. ǂk Selections. ǂf 2015
>>
>> And more complicated ones such as:
>>
>> Piglia, Ricardo. ǂt Works. ǂk Selections. ǂf 2015 ǂs (Editorial 
>> Universidad de Talca)
>>
>> Piglia, Ricardo. ǂt Works. ǂk Selections. ǂf 2015 ǂs (Eterna Cadencia 
>> Editora)
>>
>> Since Works. Selections is considered a work access point and not an 
>> expression point, when breaking a conflict with another collection 
>> that has the same collective title, the qualifier(s) should be put in 
>> paretheses and no subfielding is used in such a situation (work 
>> qualifiers are never preceded by subfield coding).
>>
>> It doesn’t look like many NACO catalogers understand this from the 
>> disparity between the number of correctly coded records and the 
>> incorrectly coded ones.   Do we need somehow to do a better job of 
>> teaching this?  Do we need a project to clean up all the incorrectly 
>> coded Works. Selections RDA access points?  Or does it not matter?
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> Adam L. Schiff
>>
>> Principal Cataloger
>>
>> University of Washington Libraries
>>
>> Box 352900
>>
>> Seattle, WA 98195-2900
>>
>> aschiff at uw.edu <mailto:aschiff at uw.edu>
>>
>> (206) 543-8409
>>
>> (206) 685-8782 fax
>>
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