[Heb-NACO] "Nidpas me-ḥadash be-tosefet...": 245/250/500?

[Joan Biella]

Personally,  I see nothing wrong in a long 250 field--it seems to me
including everything relevant is in the spirit of RDA.

Joan


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Kuperman, Aaron <akup at loc.gov> wrote:

> The Hebrew phrase, “נדפס מחדש ...” is not integral to the title, but
> rather is supplementary to it.  It serves to identify the expression or
> manifestation, but not the work itself.   If you deleted the phrase, the
> title would be perfectly understandable and its meaning unaffected.
> Typically it is in small print.  One would not refer to the work by the
> phrase in requesting it from a book store or a reference librarian.
>
>
>
> Aaron Kuperman, LC Law Cataloging Section.
>
> This is not an official communication from my employer
>
>
>
> *From:* heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:
> heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] *On Behalf Of *Heidi G
> Lerner
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:09 PM
>
> *To:* Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
> *Subject:* Re: [Heb-NACO] "Nidpas me-ḥadash be-tosefet...": 245/250/500?
>
>
>
> I think that the wording of RDA 2.5.2.6 gives us the instruction on how to
> handle this situation:
>
>
>
> Designation of Edition Integral to Title Proper, Etc.
>
> If:
>
> a designation of edition is an integral part of the title proper, other
> title information, or statement of responsibility
>
> or
>
> the designation is grammatically linked to any of these elements
>
> then:
>
> record the designation of edition as part of the element to which it is
> integrated or linked. Do not record it again as a designation of edition.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> EXAMPLE
>
> The compact edition of the Oxford English dictionary
>
> Designation of edition integral to title proper. No designation of edition
> recorded
>
>
>
> Tenth anniversary edition of Economic justice for all
>
> Designation of edition integral to title proper. No designation of edition
> recorded
>
>
>
> Bullarum diplomatum et privilegiorum sanctorum Romanorum pontificum
> Taurinensis editio
>
> Designation of edition integral to title proper. No designation of edition
> recorded
>
>
>
> a revised and augmented edition of the Glossary of biotechnology and
> genetic engineering
>
> Designation of edition integral to other title information. No designation
> of edition recorded
>
>
>
> édition française revue par Germaine Meyer-Noire
>
> Designation of edition integral to statement of responsibility. No
> designation of edition recorded
>
>
>
> So it seems that it would go in a 245 field.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have other thoughts?
>
>
>
> Thanks, Hweidi
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Jasmin Nof" <jnof at upenn.edu>
> *To: *"Hebrew Name Authority Funnel" <
> heb-naco at lists.service.ohio-state.edu>
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:05:18 AM
> *Subject: *[Heb-NACO] "Nidpas me-ḥadash be-tosefet...": 245/250/500?
>
>
>
> When is such a statement as the above, in my case "nidpas me-ḥadash
> be-tosefet merubah ʻal ha-rishonim, mugahim mi-kol ha-ṭaʻuyot she-naflu
> ba-defusim ha-ḳodmim...", placed in the 245$b, when in the 250, and when
> in the 500?  Or in some cases, split between the 250 Nidpas me-ḥadash
> and 500 Be-tosefet ...?   I've seen various practices and don't know
> what the determining factor is; or is there not one -- aka, "cataloger's
> judgement"?
>
>
>
> Thanks, Jasmin
>
>
>
> --
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> University of Pennsylvania
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> Philadelphia, PA 19104-6206
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> Heidi G. Lerner
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