[Heb-NACO] Psalms 45, 9: Mini simhukha

[Jasmin Nof]

just to strengthen the proposition proposal, a few more verses with ??? 
from ??????, none of which make mention of an instrument:

*??:??*  ???? ???-???????????? ??????????;    ???????????, ???-?????? 
??????. =
*23* For all His ordinances were before me, and I put not away His 
statutes from me.

??:??: ???????????? ??????, ??????-???;    ???????????????, ?????? ????? =
*11* Thou makest us to turn back from the adversary; and they that hate 
us spoil at their will.

??:??: ???-?????? ?????? ????????;    ?????? ???????????, ?????? 
????????. =
*19* Our heart is not turned back, neither have our steps declined from 
Thy path;

(and 7 others...) jasmin

On 5/3/2013 11:59 AM, Jasmin Nof wrote:
> i'm not so sure, heidi.  looking at other places in appears in tanakh 
> (searching the word ??? in ???? ????? ?????, 
> http://kodesh.snunit.k12.il/cgi-bin/kodesh/search_adv.pl?search=%D7%9E%D7%A0%D7%99) 
> and looking at the translations of the found verses at ???? ????, it 
> appears to be a preposition.   e.g.
>
> 1. ?????? ??? ?:???? ?"? 
> <http://kodesh.snunit.k12.il//i/t/t0705.htm#14>: ?????? ?????????, 
> ?????????  {?} ??????????,  {?}  ????????? ??????????, ????????????;  
> {?}  ??????  {?} ??????, ??????? ??????????,  {?}  ?????????????, 
> ????????? ?????????  {?} ?????.  {?} =
> *14* Out of Ephraim came they whose root is in Amalek; after thee, 
> Benjamin, among thy peoples; out of Machir came down governors, and 
> out of Zebulun they that handle the marshal's staff.
>
>
> 2. ????? ??? ??: ???? ? 
> <http://kodesh.snunit.k12.il//i/t/t1022.htm#4>: ???-???? ?????????? 
> ?????? ??????, ??????? ?????????; ???-????????? ???????????, ???-???? 
> ????-?????? =
> *4* Therefore said I: 'Look away from me, I will weep bitterly; strain 
> not to comfort me, for the destruction of the daughter of my people.'
>
>
>
> 3. ?????? ??? ?: ???? ? 
> <http://kodesh.snunit.k12.il//i/t/t1030.htm#1>: ???? ??????? 
> ?????????, ?????-??????, ????????? ????? ????? ??????, ?????????? 
> ???????? ????? ??????--??????? ?????? ???????, ???-???????. =
>
> *1* Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, 
> but not of Me; and that form projects, but not of My spirit, that they 
> may add sin to sin;
>
>
> hence, i'd go with mi-ni, as in, "from Me are you made glad".  this 
> doesn't match the translation of ???? ???? for
>
>
> ????? ??:9: ???-?????????? ?????????, ????-????????????; ???-???????? 
> ????, ?????? ???????????,=
>
> *9* Myrrh, and aloes, and cassia are all thy garments; out of ivory 
> palaces stringed instruments have made thee glad,
>
>
> but it does match this translation:
>
>
> "Myrrh and aloes, and cassia, are all your garments, [more splendid] 
> than ivory palaces are Mine that will make you rejoice."  (sorry, 
> can't find the source of the translation. it's at 
> http://www.dailytehillim.com/Default.aspx?Perek=45)
>
>
> ??? ????, jasmin
>
>
> On 5/3/2013 11:15 AM, Heidi G Lerner wrote:
>
>> My thought is that it is "mini" [since?] and not  "mi-ni". 
>> Even-Shoshan says that it is a poetical form often used in Tanakh.
>> Heidi
>>
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>> *From: *"Yossi Galron" <jgalron at gmail.com>
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>> *Sent: *Friday, May 3, 2013 7:57:12 AM
>> *Subject: *[Heb-NACO] Psalms 45, 9: Mini simhukha
>>
>> Colleagues
>> I have a commentary on some Masekhtot. The title is ??? ??? ????? and 
>> the source of the title is from Tehilim, 45:9
>> My question is about the first word: is it Mini or Mi-ni (in other 
>> words: is the Mem an article?)
>>
>> Thanks for your insights
>>
>> Yossi
>>
>>
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