[Heb-NACO] romanization of the day?

[Jasmin Nof]

So in this case the crux of the matter is the suffix.  Ok, I'll take 
your word for it. :-)


On 9/28/2012 9:36 AM, Biella, Joan wrote:
>
> According to my favorite grammar book (Lambdin's /Introduction to 
> Biblical Hebrew/, c1971, p. 267 and vicinity), the vowel in the first 
> syllable of Qal verbs is reduced to sheva when an object suffix is 
> attached to the perfect, due to "shift of stress and propretonic 
> reduction."  In LC romanization, his examples would be
>
> shemartini (2.f.s.), shemartim (1.s), shemartikh (1.s.)--and many more.
>
> If the root begins with a guttural, the sheva becomes a hataf patah, 
> requiring ve- to take the form va- in the syllable before it.  All 
> these factors would produce va-'arakhtiv. I'm not sure how to look for 
> Biblical examples (or counterexamples) of this; can anyone check a few?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Joan//
>
> *From:*heb-naco-bounces+jbie=loc.gov at lists.service.ohio-state.edu 
> [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jbie=loc.gov at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] 
> *On Behalf Of *Barry Walfish
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:18 PM
> *To:* Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
> *Subject:* Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of the day?
>
> I should think the ayin would be vocalized with a kamats, so I agree 
> with Jay.
>
> Barry
>
> *From:*heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu 
> <mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> 
> [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] *On Behalf Of 
> *Jasmin Nof
> *Sent:* September 26, 2012 10:22 PM
> *To:* Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
> *Subject:* Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of the day?
>
> No, a vav that comes before a letter vocalized with a hataf takes that 
> vocalization.  In this case, the ayin of arakhti is vocalized with a 
> hataf-patah, so the vav is vocalized with a patah.
>
> Jasmin
>
> Please pardon typos; sent from my iPod.
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Jay Rovner <jarovner at jtsa.edu 
> <mailto:jarovner at jtsa.edu>> wrote:
>
>     It would be ve-`arakhti, no?
>
>                JR
>
>     Jay Rovner, PhD
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>     *From:*heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu
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>     *On Behalf Of *Biella, Joan
>     *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2012 4:13 PM
>     *To:* 'Jasmin Nof'; heb-naco at lists.service.ohio-state.edu
>     <mailto:heb-naco at lists.service.ohio-state.edu>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of the day?
>
>     The whole phrase "ha-Honen le-Adam Da'at" is capped, because it is
>     a name consisting of a phrase, sort of like "She Who Must Be
>     Obeyed," "Father Time," or "Calamity Jane" (AACR2 rule 22.11A).
>
>     *From:*Jasmin Nof [mailto:jnof at upenn.edu]
>     <mailto:[mailto:jnof at upenn.edu]>
>     *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2012 4:11 PM
>     *To:* heb-naco at lists.service.ohio-state.edu
>     <mailto:heb-naco at lists.service.ohio-state.edu>; Biella, Joan
>     *Subject:* Re: [Heb-NACO] romanization of the day?
>
>     I can answer the second one more easily as it comes from the
>     'amidah: it's le-adam, not la-adam. (why would adam and da'at be
>     capped?)
>
>     I'll look into the ??"?...
>
>     Jasmin
>
>     On 9/24/2012 2:26 PM, Biella, Joan wrote:
>
>         The LCCN is 2011425612 and the title is "Shut Minh?at Avraham."
>
>         The statement of responsibility says "h?ibartiv?
>         v?a-?arakhtiv?be-h?esed D. ?alai uve-?ezrat ha-H?onen la-Adam
>         Da?at ani ha-tsa?ir ?er. h?. Avraham b.R. Sa?id H?amami, y.
>         ts. v?."
>
>         My question:  what is ?er. h?. = ??"??  Somehow "?erev rosh
>         h?odesh" doesn't fit the context.
>
>         Bonus question: should it be ha-H?onen la-Adam Da?at or
>         ha-H?onen le-Adam Da?at?
>
>         Thank you for your collective wisdom.
>
>         Joan
>
>
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