[Heb-NACO] rabbinic phrase

[Barry Walfish]

In rabbinic parlance, the author and his book are often identified, and the book is personified, so in that sense it would make sense for the Be'er ha-golah to be the armor/arms-bearer of the Shulhan arukh.

Barry

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From: heb-naco-bounces+barry.walfish=utoronto.ca at lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+barry.walfish=utoronto.ca at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Biella, Joan
Sent: October 24, 2011 2:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] rabbinic phrase

Yes, I was thinking first that it might be "armor bearer," and I thought of Rivkes as a squire following along after the knights Karo and Isserles!  But I guess "tools" makes as much sense.  But please let me know what you think about the grammar of

Karo ... Iserlis ... 'im nose kelehem ha-lo hu: be'er ha-golah meha-ga'on mo. h. Mosheh Rivkes, zatsal, mi-Vilna.

In the text, the commentary is titled "Be'er ha-golah."  Does it make sense that the commentary, not the commentator (Rivkes), is called the "nose kelim"?

Thank you, Shunit and Barry, for your help.
Joan


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From: heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Cliff Miller
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:17 PM
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How about "Armor bearer<s>" ?

Shanah tovah,

Clifford Miller

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Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] rabbinic phrase

Shalom
The simple linguistic meaning is the assistant, the one who carries (the tools). In the rabbinic literature Nose kelehem or Nose Ha-kelim are the commentators. It is a phrase used very often especially with commentaries to Maimonides.
Shana Tova
Shunit Degani
Head, Classification and Kiryat Sefer Department National Library of Israel

mail: shunit.degani at nli.org.il

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From: heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu [heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Biella, Joan [jbie at loc.gov] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 3:27 PM What is meant by "nose kelehem"?
 
Thank you for your wisdom, Heb-NACOers.

Joan
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