[Heb-NACO] rabbinic phrase

[Aaron Kuperman]

I believe that "armor bearer" would be the correct origin, and in the
context discussed means that the work so described is subsidiary to and
supporting a more important work.


BTW, I've heard the phrase used in a contemporary context to refer to a
"tag along" or a "gofer" in a sarcastic sense.




On Mon, 24 Oct
2011, Biella, Joan wrote:


> Yes, I was thinking first that it might be "armor bearer," and I thought of Rivkes as a squire following along after the knights Karo and Isserles!  But I guess "tools" makes as much sense.  But please let me know what you think about the grammar of
> 
> Karo ... Iserlis ... 'im nose kelehem ha-lo hu: be'er ha-golah meha-ga'on mo. h. Mosheh Rivkes, zatsal, mi-Vilna.
> 
> In the text, the commentary is titled "Be'er ha-golah."  Does it make sense that the commentary, not the commentator (Rivkes), is called the "nose kelim"?
> 
> Thank you, Shunit and Barry, for your help.
> Joan
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Cliff Miller
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> To: 'Hebrew Name Authority Funnel'
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> 
> How about "Armor bearer<s>" ?
> 
> Shanah tovah,
> 
> Clifford Miller
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heb-naco-bounces+clmiller=jtsa.edu at lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+clmiller=jtsa.edu at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Shunit Degani To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
> Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] rabbinic phrase
> 
> Shalom
> The simple linguistic meaning is the assistant, the one who carries (the tools). In the rabbinic literature Nose kelehem or Nose Ha-kelim are the commentators. It is a phrase used very often especially with commentaries to Maimonides.
> Shana Tova
> Shunit Degani
> Head, Classification and Kiryat Sefer Department National Library of Israel
> 
> mail: shunit.degani at nli.org.il
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu [heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Biella, Joan [jbie at loc.gov] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 3:27 PM What is meant by "nose kelehem"?
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> Thank you for your wisdom, Heb-NACOers.
> 
> Joan
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Aaron Wolfe Kuperman
Library of Congress, ABA USPL, Law Cataloging Section

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