[Vwoolf] [External] TLS review of biography of Arnold Bennett, and Virginia Woolf

Mon May 16 19:01:15 EDT 2022

if anyone can access this article could you send it to me? It is relevant
to my conference offering!! Leslie

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 2:56 PM Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf <
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> It is behind a paywall, but perhaps some of you have access to the TLS:
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> A writer with class
> A new biography sets up the clash between Arnold Bennett and Virginia Woolf
> By Margaret Drabble
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> 2. Re: Giles (ex names and nations) (Mark Hussey)
> 3. Re: Giles (ex names and nations) (Shilo McGiff)
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> From: Kllevenback <kllevenback at att.net>
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> Subject: [Vwoolf] NYTimes: My College Students Are Not OK?are students
> of Virginia Woolf different?
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> Just wondering?.
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> Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 12:58:39 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Mark Hussey <mhussey at verizon.net>
> To: "Stuart N. Clarke" <stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com>, Vwoolf
> Listerve <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Giles (ex names and nations)
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> Sorry if I?ve overlooked a post, but? Giles Lytton Strachey?
> On Sunday, May 15, 2022, 12:12:37 PM EDT, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <
> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:
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> Giles is not very common in Woolf. It was a popular name in the medieval
> period (St Giles was the patron saint of ?cripples?), and appropriately
> there?s a Giles Martyn in ?The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn?. Giles
> sounds a posh name to me,Giles is not very common in Woolf.? It was a
> popular name in the medieval period (St Giles was the patron saint of
> ?cripples?), and appropriately there?s a Giles Martyn in ?The Journal of
> Mistress Joan Martyn?.? Giles sounds a posh name to me, and indeed a
> distant cousin of Woolf?s was Sir Gyles Isham, Bt (see letter no. 2690),
> who nevertheless was an ACTOR:
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> ?Stuart?From: Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf Sent: S
> unday, May 15, 2022 10:00 AMTo: VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject:
> [Vwoolf] names and nations?Stuart?s exasperation reminds me of this passage
> from Joseph Heller?s Catch 22 ? it deals with surnames rather than given
> names, but the emotions inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized
> how often the name Yossarian
> Stuart?s exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph Heller?s
> Catch 22 ? it deals with surnames rather than given names, but the emotions
> inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the name
> Yossarian is associated with events that dealt him metaphorical black eyes.
>
> ?
>
> Yossarian - the very sight of the name made him shudder. There were so
> many esses in it. It just had to be subversive. It was like the word
> subversive itself. It was like seditious and insidious too, and like
> socialist, suspicious, fascist and Communist. It was an odious, alien
> distasteful name, that just did not inspire confidence. It was not at all
> like such clean, crisp, honest American names as Cathcart, Peckem and
> Dreedle.
>
> ?
>
> (Why does Heller give ?Communist? a capital letter?)
>
> ?
>
> One Woolf name I have often wondered about is Giles, in Between the Acts.
> What associations does that name have for readers - or did it have for
> Woolf?
>
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> Jeremy Hawthorn
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> From: Shilo McGiff <srm10 at cornell.edu>
> To: Mark Hussey <mhussey at verizon.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Giles (ex names and nations)
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> What of "Gilles" as a stock figure in French farce?
> In any event, "little goat" gives this (somewhat) modern student of
> pastoral...a frisson.
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> Happy Monday, All.
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> SRM
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> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 8:58 AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf <
> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
> wrote:
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> > Sorry if I?ve overlooked a post, but? Giles Lytton Strachey
> >
> > On Sunday, May 15, 2022, 12:12:37 PM EDT, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <
> > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Giles is not very common in Woolf. It was a popular name in the medieval
> > period (St Giles was the patron saint of ?cripples?), and appropriately
> > there?s a Giles Martyn in ?The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn?. Giles
> > sounds a posh name to me,
> > Giles is not very common in Woolf. It was a popular name in the medieval
> > period (St Giles was the patron saint of ?cripples?), and appropriately
> > there?s a Giles Martyn in ?The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn?. Giles
> > sounds a posh name to me, and indeed a distant cousin of Woolf?s was Sir
> > Gyles Isham, Bt (see letter no. 2690), who nevertheless was an ACTOR:
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyles_Isham__;!!KGKeukY!29ygSF2vrKsupppdaJi-BU5qwU7p5Zhyuxk0HY_PMXgViAklx7HpMUPdpNk_sxg4pBsxfryCzPajhyQOn8hW$
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyles_Isham__;!!KGKeukY!29ygSF2vrKsupppdaJi-BU5qwU7p5Zhyuxk0HY_PMXgViAklx7HpMUPdpNk_sxg4pBsxfryCzPajhyQOn8hW$>
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> > Stuart
> >
> > *From:* Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf
> > *Sent:* Sunday, May 15, 2022 10:00 AM
> > *To:* VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu
> > *Subject:* [Vwoolf] names and nations
> >
> > Stuart?s exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph Heller?s
> > Catch 22 ? it deals with surnames rather than given names, but the
> emotions
> > inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the name
> > Yossarian
> >
> > Stuart?s exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph Heller?s
> *Catch
> > 22* ? it deals with surnames rather than given names, but the emotions
> > inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the name
> > Yossarian is associated with events that dealt him metaphorical black
> eyes.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Yossarian* - the very sight of the name made him shudder. There were so
> > many esses in it. It just had to be subversive. It was like the word
> > *subversive* itself. It was like *seditious* and *insidious* too, and
> > like *socialist*, *suspicious*, *fascist* and *Communist*. It was an
> > odious, alien distasteful name, that just did not inspire confidence. It
> > was not at all like such clean, crisp, honest American names as Cathcart,
> > Peckem and Dreedle.
> >
> >
> >
> > (Why does Heller give ?Communist? a capital letter?)
> >
> >
> >
> > One Woolf name I have often wondered about is Giles, in *Between the
> Acts*.
> > What associations does that name have for readers - or did it have for
> > Woolf?
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeremy H
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeremy Hawthorn
> >
> > Professor Emeritus
> >
> > NTNU
> >
> > 7491 Trondheim
> >
> > Norway
> >
> >
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> Shilo R. McGiff, PhD
> The Woolf Salon Project
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*"No doubt we should be, on the whole, much worse off than we are without
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