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A writer with class<br>
A new biography sets up the clash between Arnold Bennett and Virginia Woolf<br>
By Margaret Drabble<br>
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Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 04:01:03 -0400<br>
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Just wondering?.<br>
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From: Mark Hussey <<a href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net" target="_blank">mhussey@verizon.net</a>><br>
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Sorry if I?ve overlooked a post, but? Giles Lytton Strachey?<br>
On Sunday, May 15, 2022, 12:12:37 PM EDT, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote: <br>
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Giles is not very common in Woolf. It was a popular name in the medieval period (St Giles was the patron saint of ?cripples?), and appropriately there?s a Giles Martyn in ?The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn?. Giles sounds a posh name to me,Giles is not very common in Woolf.? It was a popular name in the medieval period (St Giles was the patron saint of ?cripples?), and appropriately there?s a Giles Martyn in ?The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn?.? Giles sounds a posh name to me, and indeed a distant cousin of Woolf?s was Sir Gyles Isham, Bt (see letter no. 2690), who nevertheless was an ACTOR:<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyles_Isham__;!!KGKeukY!zyj8oUENhg2KrmHjwUUVOgHMcQeV-iHt3a5l2lWfKJ-Smp3d1-5FEjwTcsZw3RfHgI-bigtOP-T0XX09pqVR9A$" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyles_Isham__;!!KGKeukY!zyj8oUENhg2KrmHjwUUVOgHMcQeV-iHt3a5l2lWfKJ-Smp3d1-5FEjwTcsZw3RfHgI-bigtOP-T0XX09pqVR9A$</a> ?Stuart?From: Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf Sent: S<br>
unday, May 15, 2022 10:00 AMTo: <a href="mailto:VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu</a> Subject: [Vwoolf] names and nations?Stuart?s exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph Heller?s Catch 22 ? it deals with surnames rather than given names, but the emotions inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the name Yossarian <br>
Stuart?s exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph Heller?s Catch 22 ? it deals with surnames rather than given names, but the emotions inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the name Yossarian is associated with events that dealt him metaphorical black eyes. <br>
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Yossarian - the very sight of the name made him shudder. There were so many esses in it. It just had to be subversive. It was like the word subversive itself. It was like seditious and insidious too, and like socialist, suspicious, fascist and Communist. It was an odious, alien distasteful name, that just did not inspire confidence. It was not at all like such clean, crisp, honest American names as Cathcart, Peckem and Dreedle.<br>
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(Why does Heller give ?Communist? a capital letter?)<br>
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One Woolf name I have often wondered about is Giles, in Between the Acts. What associations does that name have for readers - or did it have for Woolf?<br>
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Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 12:24:43 -0400<br>
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What of "Gilles" as a stock figure in French farce?<br>
In any event, "little goat" gives this (somewhat) modern student of<br>
pastoral...a frisson.<br>
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Happy Monday, All.<br>
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On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 8:58 AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>><br>
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> Sorry if I?ve overlooked a post, but? Giles Lytton Strachey<br>
><br>
> On Sunday, May 15, 2022, 12:12:37 PM EDT, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <<br>
> <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Giles is not very common in Woolf. It was a popular name in the medieval<br>
> period (St Giles was the patron saint of ?cripples?), and appropriately<br>
> there?s a Giles Martyn in ?The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn?. Giles<br>
> sounds a posh name to me,<br>
> Giles is not very common in Woolf. It was a popular name in the medieval<br>
> period (St Giles was the patron saint of ?cripples?), and appropriately<br>
> there?s a Giles Martyn in ?The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn?. Giles<br>
> sounds a posh name to me, and indeed a distant cousin of Woolf?s was Sir<br>
> Gyles Isham, Bt (see letter no. 2690), who nevertheless was an ACTOR:<br>
> <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyles_Isham__;!!KGKeukY!29ygSF2vrKsupppdaJi-BU5qwU7p5Zhyuxk0HY_PMXgViAklx7HpMUPdpNk_sxg4pBsxfryCzPajhyQOn8hW$" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyles_Isham__;!!KGKeukY!29ygSF2vrKsupppdaJi-BU5qwU7p5Zhyuxk0HY_PMXgViAklx7HpMUPdpNk_sxg4pBsxfryCzPajhyQOn8hW$</a> <br>
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> *From:* Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf<br>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 15, 2022 10:00 AM<br>
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> *Subject:* [Vwoolf] names and nations<br>
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> Stuart?s exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph Heller?s<br>
> Catch 22 ? it deals with surnames rather than given names, but the emotions<br>
> inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the name<br>
> Yossarian<br>
><br>
> Stuart?s exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph Heller?s *Catch<br>
> 22* ? it deals with surnames rather than given names, but the emotions<br>
> inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the name<br>
> Yossarian is associated with events that dealt him metaphorical black eyes.<br>
><br>
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> *Yossarian* - the very sight of the name made him shudder. There were so<br>
> many esses in it. It just had to be subversive. It was like the word<br>
> *subversive* itself. It was like *seditious* and *insidious* too, and<br>
> like *socialist*, *suspicious*, *fascist* and *Communist*. It was an<br>
> odious, alien distasteful name, that just did not inspire confidence. It<br>
> was not at all like such clean, crisp, honest American names as Cathcart,<br>
> Peckem and Dreedle.<br>
><br>
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> (Why does Heller give ?Communist? a capital letter?)<br>
><br>
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> One Woolf name I have often wondered about is Giles, in *Between the Acts*.<br>
> What associations does that name have for readers - or did it have for<br>
> Woolf?<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#9900ff" face="garamond, serif">Leslie Kathleen Hankins</font><div><font color="#9900ff" face="garamond, serif">Professor, Chair</font></div><div><font color="#9900ff" face="garamond, serif">Department of English & Creative Writing</font></div><div><font color="#9900ff" face="garamond, serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#9900ff" face="garamond, serif"><i>"No doubt we should be, on the whole, much worse off than we are without our astonishing gift for illusion."</i></font></div><div><font color="#9900ff" face="garamond, serif"><i> </i> Virginia Woolf,<i> Jacob's Room</i></font></div><div><font color="#9900ff" face="garamond, serif"><i><br></i></font></div><div><br></div><div><font color="#9900ff" face="garamond, serif"><i><br></i></font></div><div><font color="#9900ff" face="garamond, serif"><i><br></i></font></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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