[Vwoolf] Gig Lamps and Orlando....

Wed Aug 28 10:53:03 EDT 2024

I am not at all comfortable with the image of gigs outside a theatre.  (In JR the ref. is to “carriages” – I know that’s a generic word, but . . .)  Gigs were nasty, dangerous (see “Jack Mytton”), draughty things, seating only two people, suitable for dashing young men-about-town.  You would be more likely to see rows of them at a race course than outside a theatre.  You might have hired a gig and driven it yourself, but I don’t think a gig with driver would be waiting for customers, for it would only have been *one* customer per gig.

You can see the lamps in the lower photos here:
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but it’s an unusual “skeleton” gig with two horses.

Stuart

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I think that may be the opera scene in Jacob's Room. On 8/28/2024 9: 18 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote: I think I must have read this somewhere (i. e. not my idea) long ago, that the 'series' of gig lamps called to mind an image of the gigs
I think that may be the opera scene in Jacob's Room.

On 8/28/2024 9:18 AM, Mark Hussey via Vwoolf wrote:

  I think I must have read this somewhere (i. e. not my idea) long ago, that the 'series' of gig lamps called to mind an image of the gigs lined up, their lamps lit, perhaps outside a theatre, waiting for customers in the evening And not
  I think I must have read this somewhere (i.e. not my idea) long ago, that the 'series' of gig lamps called to mind an image of the gigs lined up, their lamps lit, perhaps outside a theatre, waiting for customers in the evening 

  And not that it is particularly relevant to this image, but Proust also uses the image of a 'transparent envelope' in Swann's Way when talking about identity.

  On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 9:04 AM Laura Cernat via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:

    Dear Ann, Thank you for this rich parallel. I think you dotted the "i" here, since Woolf was so interested in looking not just at the "moments of being" (when life is in the spotlight, so to say) but also at the "cotton
    Dear Ann,

    Thank you for this rich parallel. I think you dotted the "i" here, since Woolf was so interested in looking not just at the "moments of being" (when life is in the spotlight, so to say) but also at the "cotton wool" that surrounds them and in understanding how they are embedded and how they emerge from his "non-being". To me the "semi-transparent envelope" reads sometimes like a prefiguration of the "cotton wool" and the "gig lamps" read somewhat like the moments of being - or, moreover, like moments of awareness, which Woolf emphasizes as asymmetrical and unpredictable, hard to sum up or fit into a series. 

    There are indeed so many echoes between these images, and yet each also stands alone with such uniqueness and force. 

    A great new semester to all of you,

    Laura

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    With regard to Laura's reading, I'm wondering how the lights and lamps in "Modern Fiction" relate to that scene in _Orlando_ in which Orlando and Pope are in the carriage: "Lamp-posts list with oil-lamps occurred every two hundred
    With regard to Laura's reading, I'm wondering how the lights and lamps in "Modern Fiction" relate to that scene in _Orlando_ in which Orlando and Pope are in the carriage:

    "Lamp-posts list with oil-lamps occurred every two hundred yards or so, but between lay a considerable stretch of pitch darkness. Thus for ten minutes Orlando and Mr Pope would be in blackness; and then for about half a minute again in the light. A very strange state of mind was thus bred in Orlando."

    It associates with the final drive out of the city, but here the lamp posts and lamp lights suggest a symmetrical, linear movement of time and space, but here it's...variegated (and resonates for me with "Evening Over Sussex").

    The clusters of images that arise in Woolf's work....

    All best,
    Ann

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