[Vwoolf] Auden

Gretchen Gerzina ozma at sover.net
Sat Aug 3 12:08:39 EDT 2024 

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Dear Edward,

As a complete tangent, I thought you'd find it interesting that my mother (may she RIP), took a lecture course with W.H. Auden when she was an undergraduate at the University of Michigan. She said it was pretty boring, and she didn't get the feeling that he was particularly interested in teaching it! But she thought it was a great opportunity, so she remained in it for the semester.

Gretchen

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Today's Topics:


1. Re: To the Lighthouse: edition with UK text distributed in
US? (Edward Mendelson)
2. Re: To the Lighthouse: edition with UK text distributed in
US? (Edward Mendelson)
3. yet another Dalloway offspring (mhussey at verizon.net <mailto:mhussey at verizon.net>)




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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2024 13:45:50 -0400
From: Edward Mendelson <edward.mendelson at columbia.edu <mailto:edward.mendelson at columbia.edu>>
To: Val?rie Favre <vrfavre at gmail.com <mailto:vrfavre at gmail.com>>, "vwoolf at lists.osu.edu <mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>"
<vwoolf at lists.osu.edu <mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] To the Lighthouse: edition with UK text
distributed in US?
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I enormously admire Alison Bechdel's books and have been reading them 
forever. I only wish her cover illustration to To the Lighthouse had 
been printed somewhere else, and not shaping anyone's perception of the 
book by being printed on the cover. I don't think my students have much 
to worry about on LGBTQIA+ issues: I'm teaching two seminars next year: 
one on Virginia Woolf, the other on W. H. Auden.


On 8/2/2024 1:13 PM, Val?rie Favre wrote:
>
> Dear Professor Mendelson,dear all,
>
> I'm glad Mark Hussey and Vara Neverow were able to provide a useful 
> answer to this query.
>
> I'm afraid mine may be slightly off topic, and yet, reading that 
> anyone, including a distinguished professor of literature who has 
> certainly been reading and teaching Woolf's oeuvre for decades now, 
> may think themselves ?saved from Alison Bechdel? prompted the 
> following thoughts.
>
> Many Woolf scholars and common readers on this list surely know that 
> Alison Bechdel's graphic novels are actually being banned from 
> libraries across the US because of the conservative backlash which 
> notably targets LGBTQI+ authors. Many of you may also know that 
> Bechdel surely is one of the most talented graphic novelists of her 
> generation, and that she takes an essential, and necessary, part in 
> enforcing Virginia Woolf?s literary and queer heritage; this, most 
> notably, in her second graphic memoir /Are You My Mother? ?/ a 
> thought-provoking and moving reflection on non-patrilineality, and on 
> literary and feminist filiations which testifies to how generative 
> Woolf's ?thinking back through our mothers? paradigm still is in the 
> 21st century.
>
> I ask you to consider what is lost in eschewing Bechdel?s 
> participation in Woolf studies; consider the signals you send to 
> LGBTQIA+ aligned students and scholars; consider the assistance you 
> are giving the effort to ban Bechdel, even unwillingly. Can an 
> artist?s interpretation of a literary classic ? whether one deems it 
> successful or not ? be worse than the violence of ?being saved? from 
> queer literature?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Val?rie Favre
>
> Val?rie Favre <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://perso.univ-paris1.fr/vfavre__;!!KGKeukY!0qiKrFXB-dffAVmhtFJKgCjuQvfRi3qMbBQEMQBdMt58STJATTjDSV1bFrx72QV0pqISqjFvPHbftFXZeWv95rN87MYs6HdP8D0$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://perso.univ-paris1.fr/vfavre__;!!KGKeukY!0qiKrFXB-dffAVmhtFJKgCjuQvfRi3qMbBQEMQBdMt58STJATTjDSV1bFrx72QV0pqISqjFvPHbftFXZeWv95rN87MYs6HdP8D0$> >(elle/ielle?she/they)
>
> Ma?tresse de conf?rences en ?tudes anglophones/Associate Professor in 
> English
> Universit? Paris 1 Panth?on-Sorbonne
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.pantheonsorbonne.fr/page-perso/vfavre__;!!KGKeukY!0qiKrFXB-dffAVmhtFJKgCjuQvfRi3qMbBQEMQBdMt58STJATTjDSV1bFrx72QV0pqISqjFvPHbftFXZeWv95rN87MYs7EcSVjs$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.pantheonsorbonne.fr/page-perso/vfavre__;!!KGKeukY!0qiKrFXB-dffAVmhtFJKgCjuQvfRi3qMbBQEMQBdMt58STJATTjDSV1bFrx72QV0pqISqjFvPHbftFXZeWv95rN87MYs7EcSVjs$> 
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>
> Le?ven. 2 ao?t 2024 ??18:33, Edward Mendelson via Vwoolf 
> <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu <mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>> a ?crit?:
>
> It is indeed - and seems to have been available here only since
> 2023, so I didn?t know it was available the last time I looked.
>
> Thank you. Saved from Alison Bechdel!
>
> > On Aug 2, 2024, at 11:52?AM, <mhussey at verizon.net <mailto:mhussey at verizon.net>>
> <mhussey at verizon.net <mailto:mhussey at verizon.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Is the Oxford World's Classics edition edited by David Bradshaw not
> > available in the US (I haven't checked!)
> >
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2024 13:52:48 -0400
From: Edward Mendelson <edward.mendelson at columbia.edu <mailto:edward.mendelson at columbia.edu>>
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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] To the Lighthouse: edition with UK text
distributed in US?
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And in case anyone hasn't seen the Penguin cover, here it is:


https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91rVFu1dPUL._SL1500_.jpg__;!!KGKeukY!0cEVRL_qPLOBr5vyHBmqI9-snNi2_4yFzKuoGSxK6J2kBlFzs2moXsA1bLm1eY4i8wT4bh2ejJcGr_SFA7gldOwDxvUF0zCe6OM$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91rVFu1dPUL._SL1500_.jpg__;!!KGKeukY!0cEVRL_qPLOBr5vyHBmqI9-snNi2_4yFzKuoGSxK6J2kBlFzs2moXsA1bLm1eY4i8wT4bh2ejJcGr_SFA7gldOwDxvUF0zCe6OM$> 


Lily thinks "Whatever, bros." on the cover, but not, I think, in the book.






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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2024 10:46:12 -0400
From: <mhussey at verizon.net <mailto:mhussey at verizon.net>>
To: <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu <mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>>
Subject: [Vwoolf] yet another Dalloway offspring
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Filming is almost complete on Yann Gozlay's Dalloway which (quoting from
Cineuropa)is ' based upon Tatiana de Rosnay's novel Les Fleurs de l'ombre,
the story revolves around Clarissa who sets about writing her next novel
during a residency run by the Ludovico Foundation. She's helped by Dalloway,
a dedicated artificial intelligence system. But as times goes by and the
writing advances, Dalloway proves to be worryingly overzealous.'






Has anyone read Tatiana de Rosnay's novel?


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