[Vwoolf] Dallowday

Thu Feb 1 04:33:21 EST 2018

Caroline, nice point, thanks. Before I read all the factual arguments for one or the other, I used to favour 13 June being the Wed in question, simply because as it is closer to 'the middle of June'. But I am swayed by these two ranges: as you say, the latter seems closer to what was intended. And, as Elisa notes, it would also fit our more mercenary purposes!
This is, of course, a straw poll, but I'll leave it open until Monday for any further comments. Then we'll see whether we have a consensus (it looks like the third Wed in June at the moment).
Thanks, everyone, for comments so far. Regardless of which day/date you go for, your contribution is very welcome.
Sarah

      From: Caroline Webb <caroline.webb at newcastle.edu.au>
 To: Alice E. Staveley <staveley at stanford.edu>; Sarah M. Hall <smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk> 
Cc: "vwoolf at lists.osu.edu" <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
 Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2018, 21:10
 Subject: RE: [Vwoolf] Dallowday

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Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2018 5:14 AM
To: Sarah M. Hall <smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Dallowday    Hi Everyone,     Given the extensive research that disproves an exact date, I vote to privilege the day over the date.  The month and the weekday are in the novel but not, tellingly, the date.  There is something of the ‘on or about’ nature of this omission which would be lovely to honor in our own party planning.   Returning just now to the place in Anne’s edition where Wednesday is named, Woolf (as she often does) reminds us that all temporalities have a terminus, and so our efforts to fix time on a calendar are both necessary and contingent: “…all those hurrying along the pavement this Wednesday morning are but bones with a few wedding rings mixed up in their dust and the gold stopping of innumerable decayed teeth.” (15)    But party we must!  Maybe the third Wednesday of every June (if only because 1923 brings 23 before our eyes which just happens to combine 3 numbers from the 13th and the 20th — the days on which the two mid-June Wednesdays fell in 1923 — and that dangling 9 is divisible — of course — by 3.  But that’s as far as I’ll go with the math here, chary of Woolf’s own “innumerable” caution above).    Happy Wednesday all! Best wishes, Alice       

On Jan 31, 2018, at 7:39 AM, Sarah M. Hall <smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:    Thanks, Anne. As you say, there is no conclusive date (unless there is an yet-to-be-discovered note in Woolf's handwriting), but if we are to celebrate Dallowday we will need to settle on a particular day to avoid confusion.     You seem to suggest that the day of the week is more important than the date -- do other people agree that a mid-June Wednesday would be best, whatever date that falls on?     It may seem a bit early in the year to bring this up, but people are starting to arrange events now!    From: Anne Fernald <fernald at fordham.edu>
To: Sarah M. Hall <smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: "vwoolf at lists.osu.edu" <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2018, 13:42
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Dallowday    As I have said here before, I’m of two minds about this:    1. I strongly disagree with those who confidently set the novel on one date: David Bradshaw’s work, the work of others, and my own research show pretty clearly that there was no Wed. that included the Royal Family being on residence, the flower show, a heat wave, and hose cricket matches.     2. I love parties, celebrations, and celebrating Woolf and, if the Day were asterisked as above and celebrated as say, the second or third Wed in June annually, that would be really fun.    I can’t imagine anything other than Dallowday for the name.    Best,    Anne    On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:11 AM Sarah M. Hall <smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
Having talked to a few people, it seems that there is interest in creating a Dallowday to be celebrated each year as people see fit on a particular day in June. I think there was a consensus last year that the day on which Mrs D is set was Wed 20 June 1923. So am I right in assuming that most of us would consider the date more important than the day of the week? This year, of course, they are one and the same, which won't happen again until 2029.     Another question I've been asked is whether it should be Dallowday or Dalloway Day, so may I also throw that out for discussion? It seems to me that the former is neater and less cumbersome.    Sarah       _______________________________________________
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