[Vwoolf] Bloomsbury in the New York Times

Sat May 13 22:44:47 EDT 2017

I agree with Vara, but with what I imagine she might be thinking, not
carefully saying here.  I printed it out so I could grab it by the hair and
fling it about the room.  But don't we today have the Harcourt editions of
Woolf's work because of the many "misleading in spots," "puzzling,"
"evasive," and just plain wrong bits of info in Francine Prose's The Mrs.
Dalloway Reader?  

The photographs are phenomenal, at least.

Brenda Helt

Co-editor Queer Bloomsbury

https://edinburghuniversitypress.com/book-queer-bloomsbury-13031.html

Fine artist

http://www.brendahelt.com <http://www.brendahelt.com/>  

From: Vwoolf [mailto:vwoolf-bounces at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Neverow,
Vara S.
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 7:23 PM
To: Gretchen Gerzina; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Bloomsbury in the New York Times

Thank you so much for the posting!

I had read the article earlier today in the print version (which is titled
"In Bloomsbury Country")  and thought it was rather misleading in spots.
What I found most puzzling was how evasive Francine Prose was with regard
the assertion that Vanessa Bell lived with "her lover" (!) Duncan Grant at
Charleston. At least Prose didn't refer to the Bloomsbury Group as the
"Bloomsbury Set" as did that article on Jo Malone's Bloomsbury scents. 

Best,

Vara

Vara Neverow
Department of English
Southern Connecticut State University
New Haven, CT 06515
203-392-6717
neverowv1 at southernct.edu

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From: Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces+neverowv1=southernct.edu at lists.osu.edu> on
behalf of Gretchen Gerzina <ozma at sover.net>
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Subject: [Vwoolf] Bloomsbury in the New York Times 

This article by Francine Prose is appearing in the New York Times,
celebrating Bloomsbury homes in Sussex and Kent:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/travel/britain-bloomsbury-group-gardens-s
ussex-kent-virginia-woolf.html?hp
<https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/travel/britain-bloomsbury-group-gardens-
sussex-kent-virginia-woolf.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=
story-heading&module=mini-moth&region=top-stories-below&WT.nav=top-stories-b
elow&_r=0>
&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=mini-moth&reg
ion=top-stories-below&WT.nav=top-stories-below&_r=0 

<https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/travel/britain-bloomsbury-group-gardens-
sussex-kent-virginia-woolf.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=
story-heading&module=mini-moth&region=top-stories-below&WT.nav=top-stories-b
elow&_r=0> 

<https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/travel/britain-bloomsbury-group-gardens-
sussex-kent-virginia-woolf.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=
story-heading&module=mini-moth&region=top-stories-below&WT.nav=top-stories-b
elow&_r=0> The Bloomsbury Bohemians in the British Countryside

www.nytimes.com

The artists, writers and intellectuals of the charmed Bloomsbury Group often
retreated to the Sussex and Kent regions, where quite a few were avid
gardeners.

Gretchen Gerzina

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       1. Compare, contrast -- and distinguish (Stuart N. Clarke)

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    Subject: [Vwoolf] Compare, contrast -- and distinguish
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    (1) ?Emma was getting old, Frannie noted wistfully, as the rail-thin
black maid tottered into the master bedroom with a breakfast tray in her
hands.? (?More Tales of the City?, 1980)

    (2) ?Ellen, the discreet black maid, stood behind Mrs Chinnery?s chair,
waiting? (?The Years?, 1937, ?1911? ch.)

    Why is Ellen black?  Because she?s old Mrs Chinnery?s maid.  She?s not a
tweeny; she?s not a downstairs maid. If anyone needs serving with
refreshments, it won?t be she doing it.  Therefore, she?s not wearing a
white apron.  She?s dressed all in black.

    Incidentally, how is Mrs Chinnery getting to her room, since she?s in a
?wheeled chair??  Will she be able to get up the stairs with help, or is her
room on the same floor as the drawing-room?  Possible but unlikely, I would
have thought.  There wouldn?t have been a lift.  I like to think that a
couple of strapping footmen will carry her in the wheelchair up the stairs.

    Let?s turn to a bit of social history.  If the photo. below comes out,
it shows 3 black shop assistants in the late-1920s in the back garden of a
department store.  Not that I think they would be called such, since shop
assistants in a decent shop would always be wearing black.  (As little James
in the film of ?To the Lighthouse? would say, ?My muvver is in the middle?.)
The hairstyles are a bit frightening ? perms at home.  Do you think the
centre and right-hand dresses are homemade?  (My mother was a good sewer.)
I doubt if the material is of good quality.  How would you clean them?  You
wouldn?t dare rub a spot like Mrs Robinson does in ?The Graduate?.  Perhaps
a wet tea-towel and a hot iron might do.  The working classes couldn?t
afford dry-cleaning until the 1930s, and only occasionally then.  And what
about the sweat under the arms, turning the black to white or grey?  No
deodorant of course, and baths once a week if you were lucky.  Well, what
they did was wear !
 a pad
     ded crescent of material under the arms, tacked, I assume, to the
straps of the petticoat. That mopped up the sweat and protected the dresses.

    This seems to me much more interesting than even considering for a
moment that Ellen might have been imported from the Empire.

    Stuart

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