[Vwoolf] Vwoolf Digest, Vol 58, Issue 31
Leslie Arthur
lesliearthur at ymail.com
Fri Mar 31 11:52:08 EDT 2017
I thought this might be of interest.
http://lithub.com/playlist-for-a-classic-novel-to-the-lighthouse/
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> 1. Re: Virginia Woolf--statistically (Mark Hussey)
> 2. Re: Chocolate Creams? (Shawn Maeder)
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> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 09:31:17 -0400
> From: Mark Hussey <mhussey at verizon.net>
> To: 'Karen Levenback' <kllevenback at att.net>, 'VWOOLF Listserv'
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> Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf--statistically
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> ?The most masculine classic novel written by a woman?
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> As the kids say, wtf?
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> From: Vwoolf [mailto:vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=verizon.net at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Levenback
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> NPR review of Benjamin Bratt's Nabokov's Favorite Word is Mauve: That the Numbers Reveal About the Classics, Bestsellers, and Our Own Writing notes that Virginia Woolf is the writer who uses the fewest cliches.
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> In her nine novels, she also uses 116 -ly adverbs per 10,000 words.
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> The most masculine classic novel written by a woman is her Orlando.
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> The Waves is the #1 book with the most 2-word anaphora: 5.5%.
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> Bratt includes much more as well (Jim Haule take note!).
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> Cheers--
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> From: Shawn Maeder <shawn.maeder at gmail.com>
> To: Mark Hussey <mhussey at verizon.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Chocolate Creams?
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> A chocolate cream is, as Stuart describes, a hard and glossy chocolate
> shell around a soft, creamy filling of any flavor. Fry's chocolate cream
> bar is a bar version of the bite-sized confection. I too have a passion for
> these and know of what I speak.
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> Shawn Maeder
> Cambridge, MA
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>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Mark Hussey <mhussey at verizon.net> wrote:
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>> Right, well Stuart?s post reminds me of Vanessa?s ?Notes on Virginia?s
>> Childhood? which ends with a scene of the sisters buying *Tit Bits*
>> ?together with 3d worth of Fry?s Chocolate, taking both to Kensington
>> Gardens to read and eat together, lying in the grass under the trees on
>> summer afternoons.?
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>> Looking forward to that edition of *JR*?
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>> *From:* Vwoolf [mailto:vwoolf-bounces at lists.osu.edu] *On Behalf Of *Stuart
>> N. Clarke
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 7:15 AM
>> *To:* Woolf List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Chocolate Creams?
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>> VW?s mother-in-law had a ?passion for chocolate creams? (*L*4 241). This
>> passion was shared by VW (*L*2 62) and LW (L. Woolf ?Beginning Again?
>> 1964: 15), and in 1918 they bought three bars from a shop near Richmond
>> Bridge run by a Belgian refugee: ?The Great War was at last over? (L. Woolf
>> 1964: 257).
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>> I didn?t realise that this was a problem! As far as I?m concerned, I
>> think of choc. creams as a small dark chocolate with inside a creamy white
>> filling. The OED gives:
>> *2.* An item or type of chocolate confectionery with a fondant centre.
>> Freq. *attrib.*, esp. in chocolate-cream bar.
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>> 1851 *Daily National Intelligencer* 18 Dec. (*advt.*) The subscriber
>> begs leave to state that he has received a great variety of imported and
>> domestic Confectionary, viz. Fancy Boxes, Chocolate Cream, Gum Drops of
>> superior flavors, [etc.].
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>> 1860 *N.Y. Times* 10 Apr. 3/4 (*advt.*) Maillard's Chocolate... Chocolate
>> Creams, Chocolate Caramels, [etc.].
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>> 1861 *Illustr. London News* 9 Feb. 124/2 (*advt.*) Frys' Chocolate
>> Creams.
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>> 1879 C. M. Yonge *Magnum Bonum* I. iv. 58 We'd got nothing to eat but chocolate
>> creams.
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>> 1893 *Proc. Ackworth Old Scholars' Assoc.* *12* 34 To one unaccustomed
>> to boys and their ways, a jam tart, a bar of chocolate cream, a cocoanut,
>> and a mixture known as turkish delight..would seem to break the elementary
>> laws of health.
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>> 1906 *Daily Chron.* 25 July 6/4 A shop-worn chocolate-cream bar.
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>> 1917 *McClure's Mag.* Mar. 48/1 In the Lowney factories most chocolate
>> cream centers are fashioned in molds.
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>> 1992 M. Baren *How it all Began* 25/1 The increased demand was at
>> least partly due to the introduction of the now famous chocolate cream bar
>> in 1866.
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>> 2012 *Weekend Austral.* (Nexis) 21 Apr. 17 This is a romantic comedy,
>> after all?as sweet as a box of soft-centred chocolate creams.
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>> 1851?2012
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>> However, on the TV yesterday on an antiques programme, an enamel advert
>> from what I took to be 1910-26 of the famous Fry?s 5 boys made me look at
>> the boy on the R more closely, and he seems to have a *bar* of chocolate in
>> his mouth rather than a choc. with a fondant centre. This here is not the
>> ad. I saw, but similar of course (it was clearer on the one I saw):
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>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00158N5FI?psc=1
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>> You can find lots of them here:
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>> https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=expectation+fry%27s+
>> five+boys&FORM=HDRSC2
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>> This is the one I saw, but it was clearer on TV (& sold for at least ?2000
>> at auction!):
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>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry%27s_Chocolate_Cream#/
>> media/File:Fry%27s_Chocolate_advertisement.JPG
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>> I thought that Fry?s choc. creams were always like this:
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>> https://www.cadbury.ie/products/Chocolate-Cream-2454?p=2454
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>> I think I may be wrong: look at ?Beginning Again? p. 257 more carefully.
>> In summary, I think chocolate cream bars were either as described by the
>> OED or were the equivalent of bars of milk chocolate (similar to what we
>> get today).
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>> If anyone gets any further with this, I should be pleased to hear -- to
>> help me with ?Jacob?s Room, of course.
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>> Stuart
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>> *From:* Byrne, Anne (Soc & Pol)
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>> *Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 11:29 AM
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>> *To:* Woolf List
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>> *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Chocolate Creams?
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>> Morning All- I have a research quest which you might be able to help me
>> with? I am looking for an explanation of what 'chocolate creams' meant in
>> post WW1 Britain. Why? I need an image of chocolate creams as recognised by
>> Leonard and Virginia but as I don't know what the term means I am somewhat
>> at a standstill. Are 'chocolate creams' hand made (or not) confectionary
>> (sweets in a box), biscuits (perhaps like bourbons or oreos today) or are
>> they a chocolate bar (think Fry's) or some sort of desert made of chocolate
>> and cream? My mind is frazzled by the puzzle and I have to say looking at
>> the pictures of chocolate does make me chocolate hungry. The plural seems
>> to be important - any ideas?
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>> The context as you probably can guess is that Virginia and Leonard
>> celebrated the end of the war together, sitting by the fire,
>> 'sacramentally' eating 'chocolate creams', purchased from a Belgian
>> confectioner on Richmond Hill (see Glendinning). The Bloomsbury Cookbook by
>> Jans Ondaatje Rolls gives a recipe for same but according to a Guardian
>> review this is more like a Swiss roll (Regretfully I don't have a copy of
>> the book to check). Florinda in *Jacob's Room* is partial to chocolate
>> creams and so might I if I knew what they were!
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>> Margaret Cole sends 'chocolate creams' to Leonard in 1967 after reading *Beginning
>> Again *(Glendinning) and other readers reputedly wished they could.
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>> It's frivolous I know but sometimes....Looking forward to another great
>> conference in Reading.
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>> Warm wishes
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>> Anne Byrne
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