<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I thought this might be of interest.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br><a href="http://lithub.com/playlist-for-a-classic-novel-to-the-lighthouse/">http://lithub.com/playlist-for-a-classic-novel-to-the-lighthouse/</a></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Mar 31, 2017, at 10:58 AM, <a href="mailto:vwoolf-request@lists.osu.edu">vwoolf-request@lists.osu.edu</a> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Send Vwoolf mailing list submissions to</span><br><span> <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit</span><br><span> <a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a></span><br><span>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to</span><br><span> <a href="mailto:vwoolf-request@lists.osu.edu">vwoolf-request@lists.osu.edu</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>You can reach the person managing the list at</span><br><span> <a href="mailto:vwoolf-owner@lists.osu.edu">vwoolf-owner@lists.osu.edu</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific</span><br><span>than "Re: Contents of Vwoolf digest..."</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Today's Topics:</span><br><span></span><br><span> 1. Re: Virginia Woolf--statistically (Mark Hussey)</span><br><span> 2. Re: Chocolate Creams? (Shawn Maeder)</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>----------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 1</span><br><span>Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 09:31:17 -0400</span><br><span>From: Mark Hussey <<a href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net">mhussey@verizon.net</a>></span><br><span>To: 'Karen Levenback' <<a href="mailto:kllevenback@att.net">kllevenback@att.net</a>>, 'VWOOLF Listserv'</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu">vwoolf@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf--statistically</span><br><span>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:000b01d2aa23$13984810$3ac8d830$@verizon.net">000b01d2aa23$13984810$3ac8d830$@verizon.net</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>?The most masculine classic novel written by a woman?</span><br><span></span><br><span>As the kids say, wtf?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>From: Vwoolf [<a href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=verizon.net@lists.osu.edu">mailto:vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=verizon.net@lists.osu.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Karen Levenback</span><br><span>Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 7:14 AM</span><br><span>To: VWOOLF Listserv</span><br><span>Subject: [Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf--statistically</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>NPR review of Benjamin Bratt's Nabokov's Favorite Word is Mauve: That the Numbers Reveal About the Classics, Bestsellers, and Our Own Writing notes that Virginia Woolf is the writer who uses the fewest cliches.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>In her nine novels, she also uses 116 -ly adverbs per 10,000 words.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>The most masculine classic novel written by a woman is her Orlando.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>The Waves is the #1 book with the most 2-word anaphora: 5.5%.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Bratt includes much more as well (Jim Haule take note!).</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Cheers--</span><br><span></span><br><span>Karen Levenback</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.osu.edu/pipermail/vwoolf/attachments/20170331/17ca9209/attachment-0001.html">http://lists.osu.edu/pipermail/vwoolf/attachments/20170331/17ca9209/attachment-0001.html</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 2</span><br><span>Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 10:57:57 -0400</span><br><span>From: Shawn Maeder <<a href="mailto:shawn.maeder@gmail.com">shawn.maeder@gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>To: Mark Hussey <<a href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net">mhussey@verizon.net</a>></span><br><span>Cc: Woolf List <<a href="mailto:VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu">VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Chocolate Creams?</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:CANjDPf5E2892f7qtMcp85dKhnTiLZ9+dCFt0XpRyE-RMCc+gow@mail.gmail.com">CANjDPf5E2892f7qtMcp85dKhnTiLZ9+dCFt0XpRyE-RMCc+gow@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>A chocolate cream is, as Stuart describes, a hard and glossy chocolate</span><br><span>shell around a soft, creamy filling of any flavor. Fry's chocolate cream</span><br><span>bar is a bar version of the bite-sized confection. I too have a passion for</span><br><span>these and know of what I speak.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Shawn Maeder</span><br><span>Cambridge, MA</span><br><span></span><br><span>On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Mark Hussey <<a href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net">mhussey@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Right, well Stuart?s post reminds me of Vanessa?s ?Notes on Virginia?s</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Childhood? which ends with a scene of the sisters buying *Tit Bits*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>?together with 3d worth of Fry?s Chocolate, taking both to Kensington</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Gardens to read and eat together, lying in the grass under the trees on</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>summer afternoons.?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Looking forward to that edition of *JR*?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*From:* Vwoolf [<a href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu">mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu</a>] *On Behalf Of *Stuart</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>N. Clarke</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 7:15 AM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*To:* Woolf List</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Chocolate Creams?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>VW?s mother-in-law had a ?passion for chocolate creams? (*L*4 241). This</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>passion was shared by VW (*L*2 62) and LW (L. Woolf ?Beginning Again?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1964: 15), and in 1918 they bought three bars from a shop near Richmond</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bridge run by a Belgian refugee: ?The Great War was at last over? (L. Woolf</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1964: 257).</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I didn?t realise that this was a problem! As far as I?m concerned, I</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>think of choc. creams as a small dark chocolate with inside a creamy white</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>filling. The OED gives:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*2.* An item or type of chocolate confectionery with a fondant centre.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Freq. *attrib.*, esp. in chocolate-cream bar.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1851 *Daily National Intelligencer* 18 Dec. (*advt.*) The subscriber</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>begs leave to state that he has received a great variety of imported and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>domestic Confectionary, viz. Fancy Boxes, Chocolate Cream, Gum Drops of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>superior flavors, [etc.].</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1860 *N.Y. Times* 10 Apr. 3/4 (*advt.*) Maillard's Chocolate... Chocolate</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Creams, Chocolate Caramels, [etc.].</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1861 *Illustr. London News* 9 Feb. 124/2 (*advt.*) Frys' Chocolate</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Creams.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1879 C. M. Yonge *Magnum Bonum* I. iv. 58 We'd got nothing to eat but chocolate</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>creams.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1893 *Proc. Ackworth Old Scholars' Assoc.* *12* 34 To one unaccustomed</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to boys and their ways, a jam tart, a bar of chocolate cream, a cocoanut,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and a mixture known as turkish delight..would seem to break the elementary</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>laws of health.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1906 *Daily Chron.* 25 July 6/4 A shop-worn chocolate-cream bar.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1917 *McClure's Mag.* Mar. 48/1 In the Lowney factories most chocolate</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>cream centers are fashioned in molds.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1992 M. Baren *How it all Began* 25/1 The increased demand was at</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>least partly due to the introduction of the now famous chocolate cream bar</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>in 1866.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>2012 *Weekend Austral.* (Nexis) 21 Apr. 17 This is a romantic comedy,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>after all?as sweet as a box of soft-centred chocolate creams.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1851?2012</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>However, on the TV yesterday on an antiques programme, an enamel advert</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>from what I took to be 1910-26 of the famous Fry?s 5 boys made me look at</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the boy on the R more closely, and he seems to have a *bar* of chocolate in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>his mouth rather than a choc. with a fondant centre. This here is not the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ad. I saw, but similar of course (it was clearer on the one I saw):</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00158N5FI?psc=1">https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00158N5FI?psc=1</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>You can find lots of them here:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=expectation+fry%27s+">https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=expectation+fry%27s+</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>five+boys&FORM=HDRSC2</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>This is the one I saw, but it was clearer on TV (& sold for at least ?2000</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>at auction!):</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry%27s_Chocolate_Cream#/">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry%27s_Chocolate_Cream#/</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>media/File:Fry%27s_Chocolate_advertisement.JPG</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I thought that Fry?s choc. creams were always like this:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://www.cadbury.ie/products/Chocolate-Cream-2454?p=2454">https://www.cadbury.ie/products/Chocolate-Cream-2454?p=2454</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think I may be wrong: look at ?Beginning Again? p. 257 more carefully.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In summary, I think chocolate cream bars were either as described by the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OED or were the equivalent of bars of milk chocolate (similar to what we</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>get today).</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If anyone gets any further with this, I should be pleased to hear -- to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>help me with ?Jacob?s Room, of course.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Stuart</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*From:* Byrne, Anne (Soc & Pol)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 11:29 AM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*To:* Woolf List</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Subject:* [Vwoolf] Chocolate Creams?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Morning All- I have a research quest which you might be able to help me</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>with? I am looking for an explanation of what 'chocolate creams' meant in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>post WW1 Britain. Why? I need an image of chocolate creams as recognised by</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Leonard and Virginia but as I don't know what the term means I am somewhat</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>at a standstill. Are 'chocolate creams' hand made (or not) confectionary</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(sweets in a box), biscuits (perhaps like bourbons or oreos today) or are</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>they a chocolate bar (think Fry's) or some sort of desert made of chocolate</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and cream? My mind is frazzled by the puzzle and I have to say looking at</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the pictures of chocolate does make me chocolate hungry. The plural seems</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to be important - any ideas?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The context as you probably can guess is that Virginia and Leonard</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>celebrated the end of the war together, sitting by the fire,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>'sacramentally' eating 'chocolate creams', purchased from a Belgian</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>confectioner on Richmond Hill (see Glendinning). The Bloomsbury Cookbook by</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Jans Ondaatje Rolls gives a recipe for same but according to a Guardian</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>review this is more like a Swiss roll (Regretfully I don't have a copy of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the book to check). Florinda in *Jacob's Room* is partial to chocolate</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>creams and so might I if I knew what they were!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Margaret Cole sends 'chocolate creams' to Leonard in 1967 after reading *Beginning</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Again *(Glendinning) and other readers reputedly wished they could.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It's frivolous I know but sometimes....Looking forward to another great</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>conference in Reading.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Warm wishes</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Anne Byrne</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Vwoolf mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Vwoolf mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.osu.edu/pipermail/vwoolf/attachments/20170331/60505b01/attachment.html">http://lists.osu.edu/pipermail/vwoolf/attachments/20170331/60505b01/attachment.html</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Subject: Digest Footer</span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Vwoolf mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a></span><br><span><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>End of Vwoolf Digest, Vol 58, Issue 31</span><br><span>**************************************</span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>