[Vwoolf] Mrs. Dallow-day?
James Gifford
james.d.gifford at gmail.com
Tue Jun 14 11:46:03 EDT 2016
My goodness that's a silly rant... I'd forgotten what "in the
spirit(s)" actually meant in relation to time: wasting it.
On 2016-06-13 6:17 PM, Davis, Michael wrote:
> I‘m sorry but I think that this is a terrible idea that misses much of
> the point of the novel and misconstrues its relationship to
> historicity! First, Clarissa’s experience of urban London is not
> exactly peachy, in large part because she is a woman trying to negotiate
> male space. I’d go so far as to say that it’s traumatic, so much so
> that she never leaves the house again after her morning outing to buy
> the flowers and that it leads to the invention of Septimus Smith, a
> readymade victim of history/historicity, to negotiate the full encounter
> for her. Second, his experience isn’t peachy either. Would these
> Dallow-Days include ritual suicides as well? Here’s death at my party.
> I too am currently at the Joyce conference and at my hotel there’s a
> lovely restaurant called Dalloway Terrace which could serve a double
> purpose. People could dine in style and then fling themselves into the
> street below!
>
> The novel actually has a complicated and uneasy relationship to
> historicity and both thematizes and dramatizes that relationship. While
> Woolf locates the novel primarily in day-time (an unspecified Wednesday
> in the middle of June), as it unfolds it gradually approaches a
> confrontation with date-time and that confrontation is at the moment of
> suicide, when Septimus reads from a newspaper and mentions a cricket
> match, and Peter Walsh later corroborates it. All the London newspapers
> report a match between Surrey and Yorkshire on June 20, 1923. To engage
> in historicity in this way threatens the autonomy/sovereignty of the
> fiction, which Woolf has been intent, as Anne suggests, to preserve,
> but it's also necessary (for a number of reasons) for Woolf to have
> that engagement. While I agree that we need to be very careful with
> this business, I do not agree that there is no point of contingency
> between the day of the novel a real date:
>
> https://www.academia.edu/18174757/Dating_Mrs_Dalloway_the_Use_and_Abuse_of_History
>
>
>
> Michael F. Davis, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Associate Chair
> Department of English
> Le Moyne College
> Syracuse, NY 13214
> USA
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:52 PM, James Gifford
> <james.d.gifford at gmail.com <mailto:james.d.gifford at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> "Dallow-Days" -- the plural would not only give more Wednesdays for
> fun but would be more in the spirit...
>
> Cheers,
> James
>
> On 2016-06-13 1:38 PM, Anne Fernald wrote:
>
> It *is* a beautiful idea and I'd be 100% in favor of finding a
> way to
> celebrate a Dallow-Day--we dream of it every June, don't we?
>
> Even so, I find myself unable to resist the pedantic point that
> there is
> no possible way to date which Wednesday in June the novel is set on.
> Woolf actively resisted the possibility of such dating as David
> Bradshaw's work and the work of others has conclusively shown.
>
> Sorry! I LOVE a party, but I value accuracy, too.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Anne Margaret Daniel
> <daniela at newschool.edu <mailto:daniela at newschool.edu>
> <mailto:daniela at newschool.edu <mailto:daniela at newschool.edu>>>
> wrote:
>
> A lovely idea -- and one I believe currently trending on
> Twitter, in
> London at least, as #Dallowday. Elaine Showalter's video is
> getting
> many views on this beautiful summer's day.
> (and, also, happy birthday today to William Butler Yeats!)
> Happy rereading, with larks and plunges, to all.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Kristin Czarnecki
> <Kristin_Czarnecki at georgetowncollege.edu
> <mailto:Kristin_Czarnecki at georgetowncollege.edu>
> <mailto:Kristin_Czarnecki at georgetowncollege.edu
> <mailto:Kristin_Czarnecki at georgetowncollege.edu>>> wrote:
>
> An endorsement for creating a Mrs. Dallowday:
>
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/jun/13/celebrate-dallowday-mrs-dalloway-virginia-woolf
>
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.theguardian.com_books_2016_jun_13_celebrate-2Ddallowday-2Dmrs-2Ddalloway-2Dvirginia-2Dwoolf&d=CwMFaQ&c=aqMfXOEvEJQh2iQMCb7Wy8l0sPnURkcqADc2guUW8IM&r=k1OoytuRmrU4MiIwbI-7ElFohPGR5Vr0JxDyMjG9DsI&m=W5Z69E9NfVP9G_8_QZd1-3WmSUCz1B2OhrXmqv1yBmI&s=d4uHuD2VsYx3mvPeBiGJTnOsey78vK15cimQv7wXtjk&e=>
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> Bring out the cardies and cocktails – it’s time we
> celebrated
> Dallowday
>
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> Ulysses has given Dublin Bloomsday, so why can’t London
> raise a
> glass to Virginia Woolf’s Mrs Dalloway?
>
>
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