[Vwoolf] "Jacob's Room": Crux #3

Libertin, Mary MLiber at ship.edu
Tue May 12 09:11:00 EDT 2015


Sorry, a correction: the passage in AROOO is, of course, not in Bell’s biography.

From: <Libertin>, "Libertin, Mary" <mliber at ship.edu<mailto:mliber at ship.edu>>
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 9:07 AM
To: "Libertin, Mary" <mliber at ship.edu<mailto:mliber at ship.edu>>, Jeremy Hawthorn <jeremy.hawthorn at ntnu.no<mailto:jeremy.hawthorn at ntnu.no>>, "vwoolf at lists.osu.edu<mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>" <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu<mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] "Jacob's Room": Crux #3

In JB there is the context of poverty and homelessness, but it may be the stark contrast itself that Woolf is pointing to: the spider vs the lobster. I recently read a passage in a book on Wilde that also points to the lobster and its context as an index of conspicuous wealth. It is the contrast between "art for art’s sake” and art for the common person that Woolf never forgets.

I am not sure why it is spiders, but I recall Woolf drew spiders in the margins of one of her texts (could it be Pargiters?). I also think Woolf compares reviewers (or interviewers) with an insect. There also may be a reference in AROOO, where the narrator (one of those “three Marys) doodles an insect while some speaker drones on. I think the reference is in an appendix to Bell’s biography, 1st ed. I don’t have the texts here but I recall spending somef time years ago on insects (spiders) and snails in Woolf.

If my semester grades (and papers) weren’t due today, I’d re-find the passage the marks the contrast between Wilde and the context of poverty.

Mary

From: <Libertin>, "Libertin, Mary" <mliber at ship.edu<mailto:mliber at ship.edu>>
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 8:15 AM
To: Jeremy Hawthorn <jeremy.hawthorn at ntnu.no<mailto:jeremy.hawthorn at ntnu.no>>, "vwoolf at lists.osu.edu<mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>" <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu<mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] "Jacob's Room": Crux #3

Dear Stuart,

I believe Woolf is referring to the famous image of Oscar Wilde walking his lobster down the street.

Mary Libertin

Dr. Mary Libertin
Professor of English
Shippensburg University of PA
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Shippensburg PA 17257


From: Jeremy Hawthorn <jeremy.hawthorn at ntnu.no<mailto:jeremy.hawthorn at ntnu.no>>
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 7:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] "Jacob's Room": Crux #3

I remember street sellers in London with mechanical spiders. They had a cable with a hand grip, and when you squeezed the grip the legs moved and propelled them along.

Jeremy H



Den 12/05/2015 13:16, skrev Stuart N. Clarke:

Near the beginning of ch. V:

“you will see that three elderly men at a little distance from each other run spiders along the pavement as if the street were their parlour”

This *very* mysterious.

Vara Neverow suggests that the ‘men, who are spaced so that they will not compete with one another, are selling mechanical toys to passersby, probably windup penny toys manufactured in Germany.’ (JR 2008: 229)

Ado suggests “peut-être” (JR 2012: 329):
(1) Live spiders attached by threads
(2) penny toys
(3) bicycles

I think Ado’s #3 is unlikely: bikes on the pavement – disgraceful!  I think those types of bikes called spiders predate 1910 by some considerable time (altho’ I’d never heard of them before).

Ado’s #1 seems possible.  After all, in the Victorian period you could buy sparrows from street vendors, with strings attached to their legs, and you could fly them around.  Ugh!

I really like Vara’s and Ado’s #2.  Not something I would have thought of, but look here:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ANTIQUE-WIND-UP-CLOCKWORK-TOY-SCHUCO-STYLE-SPRING-DEVIL-SPIDER-C1920S-30S-/391084080032
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/OLD-GERMAN-WIND-UP-TOY-SPIDER-/251940077598?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa8cc801e

On the other hand, would a 1922 reader know what VW was referring to?  Would it be obvious to him/her that she was referring to toys?

Any answers gratefully received.

Stuart



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