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<div>Sorry, a correction: the passage in AROOO is, of course, not in Bell’s biography.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 9:07 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"Libertin, Mary" <<a href="mailto:mliber@ship.edu">mliber@ship.edu</a>>, Jeremy Hawthorn <<a href="mailto:jeremy.hawthorn@ntnu.no">jeremy.hawthorn@ntnu.no</a>>, "<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>"
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Vwoolf] "Jacob's Room": Crux #3<br>
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<div>In JB there is the context of poverty and homelessness, but it may be the stark contrast itself that Woolf is pointing to: the spider vs the lobster. I recently read a passage in a book on Wilde that also points to the lobster and its context as an index
of conspicuous wealth. It is the contrast between "art for art’s sake” and art for the common person that Woolf never forgets. </div>
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<div>I am not sure why it is spiders, but I recall Woolf drew spiders in the margins of one of her texts (could it be <i>Pargiters</i>?). I also think Woolf compares reviewers (or interviewers) with an insect. There also may be a reference in AROOO, where the
narrator (one of those “three Marys) doodles an insect while some speaker drones on. I think the reference is in an appendix to Bell’s biography, 1st ed. I don’t have the texts here but I recall spending somef time years ago on insects (spiders) and snails
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<div>If my semester grades (and papers) weren’t due today, I’d re-find the passage the marks the contrast between Wilde and the context of poverty.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><Libertin>, "Libertin, Mary" <<a href="mailto:mliber@ship.edu">mliber@ship.edu</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 8:15 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Jeremy Hawthorn <<a href="mailto:jeremy.hawthorn@ntnu.no">jeremy.hawthorn@ntnu.no</a>>, "<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>" <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Vwoolf] "Jacob's Room": Crux #3<br>
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<div>I believe Woolf is referring to the famous image of Oscar Wilde walking his lobster down the street. </div>
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<div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 127); font-family: Papyrus;">Dr. Mary Libertin</span></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Jeremy Hawthorn <<a href="mailto:jeremy.hawthorn@ntnu.no">jeremy.hawthorn@ntnu.no</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 7:56 AM<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Vwoolf] "Jacob's Room": Crux #3<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I remember street sellers in London with mechanical spiders. They had a cable with a hand grip, and when you squeezed the grip the legs moved and propelled them along.<br>
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<div>Near the beginning of ch. V:</div>
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<div>Ado suggests “peut-ętre” (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style:
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<div>I think Ado’s #3 is unlikely: bikes on the pavement – disgraceful! I think those types of bikes called spiders predate 1910 by some considerable time (altho’ I’d never heard of them before).</div>
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<div>Ado’s #1 seems possible. After all, in the Victorian period you could buy sparrows from street vendors, with strings attached to their legs, and you could fly them around. Ugh!</div>
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<div>I really like Vara’s and Ado’s #2. Not something I would have thought of, but look here:</div>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" title="http://www.ebay.ca/itm/OLD-GERMAN-WIND-UP-TOY-SPIDER-/251940077598?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa8cc801e" href="http://www.ebay.ca/itm/OLD-GERMAN-WIND-UP-TOY-SPIDER-/251940077598?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa8cc801e">http://www.ebay.ca/itm/OLD-GERMAN-WIND-UP-TOY-SPIDER-/251940077598?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa8cc801e</a></div>
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<div>On the other hand, would a 1922 reader know what VW was referring to? Would it be obvious to him/her that she was referring to toys?</div>
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