[Vwoolf] Madge Vaughan "believed in her genius"
Stuart N. Clarke
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Thu Sep 4 03:33:20 EDT 2014
In the Monks House Papers, there is in sec. III, Vaughan, Madge, “1 letter to VS, 1904”
Stuart
From: Mary Ellen Foley
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:13 AM
To: Stephen Barkway
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Subject: [Vwoolf] Madge Vaughan "believed in her genius"
Thanks! But surely for that to be the case Madge would have to have written, TO Woolf, something like "I believed in her genius", which seems pretty unlikely, unless QB misquoted. Surely she'd've said "I *believe* in *your* genius". Madge could've written the line to Vanessa as part of the correspondence QB quoted elsewhere on the page, or Vanessa could have written something about knowing it will have meant a lot to her sister--pure fantasy here, of course--"that you told her you believed in her genius"--which we see from Virginia's letter to Madge was pretty much the case. It's probably going to remain a mystery, but geez--wish he'd given the source!
Mary Ellen
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On Sunday, August 24, 2014, Stephen Barkway <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sbarkway at btinternet.com');> wrote:
Dear Mary Ellen
It would seem likely that QB would have been quoting from a letter from Madge which prompted Virginia to respond as follows:
'I do enjoy flattery! I never seriously meant to deny myself the pleasure of writing, however bad it be for the public morals!—As a matter of fact I am vain enough to think it had better read me than more popular authors. "Genius" is not a word to be used rashly; it gives me enormous pleasure, and something more than pleasure, that you should find anything of that kind in me.'
(Letters I, 1 Dec [1904])
Stephen
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From: Mary Ellen Foley
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Subject: [Vwoolf] Madge Vaughan "believed in her genius"
Quentin Bell says
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Madge, who liked Virginia and "believed in her genius," was nevertheless sensible of...
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That's in vol 1, page 92, of the 1972 2-vols-in-1 paperback from Harcourt/Harvest. But there's no footnote to let us know where he got the phrase or who said/wrote it. The page has two block quotations from Vanessa Bell's letters to Madge Vaughan, which have proper citations in the end notes; I looked up those letters and the quoted phrase isn't taken from them, unless I've got some kind of bizarre blind spot and couldn't see it right in front of me.
Am I overlooking something tremendously obvious here? Who's he quoting?
Mary Ellen
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