[Heb-NACO] series-like phrases, e.g. Pardes shirah

[Shinohara, Jasmin]

Hi all, per requests, I have created the series-like phrase record for Pardes shirah (Pardes shirah (Series-like phrase)).

Thanks, Jasmin

From: Robert M. TALBOTT <rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 6:16 PM
To: Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino at upenn.edu>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] series-like phrases, e.g. Pardes shirah

I second the request for a series-like phrase authority.  This would be a boon.  True, it won't stop the addition of 490/uncontrolled 830 entries, but at least the authority will provide guidance for those who check (and correct, unfortunately).

On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 3:02 PM Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco <heb-naco at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>> wrote:
I can certainly create such a record, but based on previous experience (see on1322451041; and search the phrase Lamda iyun as a series) – even though a series-like phrase title doesn’t control in OCLC -- people still record the statement in
I can certainly create such a record, but based on previous experience (see on1322451041; and search the phrase Lamda iyun as a series) – even though a series-like phrase title doesn’t control in OCLC -- people still record the statement in a 490 and, worse, seeing there’s an authority record and not understanding why the heading doesn’t control, include the uncontrolled 830, too… ☹

From: Nancy Sack <sack at hawaii.edu<mailto:sack at hawaii.edu>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 5:38 PM
To: Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino at upenn.edu<mailto:jshino at upenn.edu>>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] series-like phrases, e.g. Pardes shirah

Always on top of things...
May I suggest creating an authority record for Pardes shirah, indicating that it is not a series and should not be given as a quoted note?
Nancy

On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 11:22 AM Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco <heb-naco at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>> wrote:
Dear colleagues, I’ve been seeing more records that include the statement Pardes shirah as a series. Online NACO series training documentation on series-like phrases (session 12) outlines 10 categories of statements that are not to be
Dear colleagues,

I’ve been seeing more records that include the statement Pardes shirah as a series. Online<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/catworkshop/courses/naco-full*20series-RDA/course*20table.html__;JSU!!KGKeukY!3B7g4USYPJaBM6fZNJBbvqLkSaZGBy7nI6kKprzuu6O8NhyBB4iM0cvVaR6sV7p6tODi-GSxVMJvQz9agOfkxQ$> NACO series training documentation on series-like phrases (session 12<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/catworkshop/courses/naco-full*20series-RDA/Session*2012.pdf__;JSU!!KGKeukY!3B7g4USYPJaBM6fZNJBbvqLkSaZGBy7nI6kKprzuu6O8NhyBB4iM0cvVaR6sV7p6tODi-GSxVMJvQz8t6CyKXg$>) outlines 10 categories of statements that are not to be recorded as series statements. Category 8 is unnumbered genre or characterizing word. There it states, “If an unnumbered genre or characterizing word in the singular form (or plural form having singular meaning) appears only on the cover or container, reject it as a series.” (emphasis in original) It further says there “Generally, do not give it as a quoted note.” The statement Pardes shirah can thus be disregarded altogether in the bibliographic description/record.

Please do not record Pardes shirah as a series. Please do let me know if there are any questions.

Thank you, Jasmin

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