[Heb-NACO] רגע לפני שנאבד

Mon Sep 18 15:39:52 EDT 2023

It’s hard to know without context. If it is novad, then the English would be Just before we were lost. Reading the summary blurb, I wonder if it isn’t Regaʻ li-fene she-neʼabed, i.e., Just before we lose. Here’s hoping the author weighs in.

--Jasmin

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Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] רגע לפני שנאבד

I agree with Yossi. But then there's a problem with the English title, which probably should be Just Before We Lose.
Barry

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I did not get a response yet from the author, but I think it should be Rega’ li-fene she-novad

Yossi

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Subject: RE: רגע לפני שנאבד

Thank you for the source, Yossi. Per HCM-RDA, E-Sh is our dictionary of record. Ne’evad is thus correct as the nif‘al. If you think it’s useful to give the Hebrew Academy form, please add it in a 246. Of course, I’m not sure that the intended
Thank you for the source, Yossi. Per HCM-RDA, E-Sh is our dictionary of record. Ne’evad is thus correct as the nif‘al.

If you think it’s useful to give the Hebrew Academy form, please add it in a 246. Of course, I’m not sure that the intended binyan is nif‘al. Looking forward to hearing what the author says!

Thanks again and kol tuv, Jasmin

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Hi, Yossi, Even-Shoshan gives the nif ‘al form as נֶאֱבַד, i. e. , ne'evad. What is the source for ne’aved? Thanks, Jasmin From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces@ lists. osu. edu> On Behalf Of Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco Sent: Sunday, September

Hi, Yossi, Even-Shoshan gives the nif ‘al form as נֶאֱבַד, i.e., ne'evad. What is the source for ne’aved?

Thanks, Jasmin

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Subject: [Heb-NACO] רגע לפני שנאבד

Colleagues
There are 10 libraries on OCLC the hold this book by Tamar Hershkovitz: רגע לפני שנאבד = Just before we lost. (OCLC # 1371506533)
It was transliterated as: Rega’ li-fene she-ne’evad.
It does not look right to me. There are two or three ways that I would transcribe it:

Rega’ li-fene she-ne’aved (Binyan Nif’al)
Or
Rega’ li-fene she-novad (Binyan Kal)
Or
Rega’ li-fene she-ne’abed (Binyan Pi’el)

What do you think?
(I wrote to the author and asked her)

Yossi Galron-Goldschläger

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