[Heb-NACO] Judeo-Moroccan?

[Shinohara, Jasmin]

And of course, I meant lcgft, not lcgdt. Thanks again, Haim.

Eagerly awaiting the weekend, Jasmin

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My apologies and thank you to Haim. Judeo-Arabic language is already established. This being the case, you could just use that with the subdivisions I suggested below to describe your work in hand. Of course, you’re also welcome to propose
My apologies and thank you to Haim. Judeo-Arabic language is already established. This being the case, you could just use that with the subdivisions I suggested below to describe your work in hand. Of course, you’re also welcome to propose the Judeo-Moroccan dialect as a new subject.

Thanks again, Jasmin

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Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Judeo-Moroccan?

Aloha, Nancy! Thanks for your question. I found some relevant examples in OCLC. Please see the records for Judeo-Italian language (lccn sh 85068810) and Judeo-Tat language (lccn sh 97007140). Please also see the SHM H1154 on languages. The
Aloha, Nancy!

Thanks for your question. I found some relevant examples in OCLC. Please see the records for Judeo-Italian language (lccn sh 85068810) and Judeo-Tat language (lccn sh 97007140). Please also see the SHM H1154 on languages. The languages are geographically subdividable.

Based on the above, I think Judeo-Arabic language would first need to be established. The broader terms in the record would include Arabic language; and Jews |x Languages. You could also include broader geographic terms, e.g., Morocco |x Languages; Iraq |x Languages; other countries supported by literary warrant or reference sources (perhaps North Africa |x languages). Some suggested reference sources are Ethnologue and EJIW (Encyclopedia of Jews in the Islamic World) (and perhaps Wikipedia<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Arabic_dialects__;!!KGKeukY!y6Rj0cgOXl3jLUGCOYfGDgZAKR4a05UGm6QeRA1pWl-i78BsQc9yVG-nYCQ0ee30juS2OdIXQ7VAyLCJ9I6D8ceNjdo$>).

Given the literary warrant of the title you cite below, you may optionally also propose Judeo-Moroccan dialect. It would have broader terms of Judeo-Arabic language |z Morocco; Morocco |x Languages; and Jews |x Languages. Suggested references are Ethnologue (which uses a variant form, Judeo-Moroccan Arabic dialect) and EJIW (Chetrit has an article on Moroccan Judeo-Arabic dialect, another variant) (and perhaps Wikipedia<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Moroccan_Arabic__;!!KGKeukY!y6Rj0cgOXl3jLUGCOYfGDgZAKR4a05UGm6QeRA1pWl-i78BsQc9yVG-nYCQ0ee30juS2OdIXQ7VAyLCJ9I6Di81AmGo$>).

Once Judeo-Arabic language is established, the free-floating term |x Dialects could then be used in the bib record; it is also geographically subdividable, and you could append a form subdivision (i.e., Judeo-Arabic language |x Dialects |z Morocco |v Glossaries, vocabularies, etc.) along with an added genre term Dictionaries |2 lcdgt. If you do establish Judeo-Moroccan dialect, you’d just add the form subdivision to it directly (i.e., Judeo-Moroccan dialect |v Glossaries, vocabularies, etc.) along with Dictionaries |2 lcdgt.

Please let me know if you have any questions and feel free to share your draft proposal(s) with me (Judaica SACO coordinator) before submitting to LC.

Thanks, Jasmin

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Subject: [Heb-NACO] Judeo-Moroccan?

Aloha, Believe it or not, the University of Hawaiʻi library seems to be the first to acquire the title Imma hbiba : dictionnaire français-judéomarocain by Joseph Chetrit. In a paper published by Brill, Chetrit writes about "some one hundred
Aloha,

Believe it or not, the University of Hawaiʻi library seems to be the first to acquire the title Imma hbiba : dictionnaire français-judéomarocain by Joseph Chetrit. In a paper<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/brill.com/view/journals/jjl/4/1/article-p1_1.xml__;!!KGKeukY!1_EZemxLjPSHrh7bh4sQ0PbAS6afd2DW80codegsKPRQAkDViHeghB6iIkeQ5lBPv26tZ1SUOs9bJ_Vq8Yk$> published by Brill, Chetrit writes about "some one hundred and thirty Moroccan Jewish dialects..." Do you think it's appropriate for me to submit an LCSH proposal for Judeo-Arabic language--Moroccan dialect?

Thanks.
Nancy
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