[Heb-NACO] Hebraica Cataloging Clinic Meeting

Wed Jun 14 11:06:52 EDT 2023

Hi Ilana,

Here’s the link to the wiki. https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://rascat.pbworks.com/w/page/7836007/Home__;!!KGKeukY!yX4ofYSgx6dbCpFW_zipxpp88Uc067D3umnyKezBmUgEKZI1AYiCHSh7zKeJTO1CaFKocdVRMGryPpYpA77JYZBDIRQ$ 

Thanks,

Neil M. Frau-Cortes
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Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Hebraica Cataloging Clinic Meeting

Thank you o much Yossi and Haim. Can you post a link to the RAS Wiki ? Ilana From: Gottschalk, Haim <hgot@  loc.  gov> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2023 9:  32 AM To: Galron, Joseph <galron.  1@  osu.  edu>;

Thank you o much Yossi and Haim. Can you post a link to the RAS Wiki ? Ilana From: Gottschalk, Haim <hgot@ loc. gov> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2023 9: 32 AM To: Galron, Joseph <galron. 1@ osu. edu>; Abend-David,Ilana <iabenddavid@ ufl. edu>;
Thank you o much Yossi and Haim.  Can you post a link to the RAS Wiki ?  Ilana

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Subject: RE: Hebraica Cataloging Clinic Meeting

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Hi Ilana,
Your question is a great question and this is a valid place to ask.

The answer would be similar to דרמה which is vocalized as דְּרָמָה. We decided to Romanize it as dramah (and which is recorded in the RAS Wiki). In this case, the RAS Wiki  does the same with דרוזי  in that it Romanizes דרוזי as Druzi. The consonantal clusters of foreign loan words are always difficult.

I hope this helps,
Haim

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Subject: RE: Hebraica Cataloging Clinic Meeting

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I believe the question was raised in the past on Heb-NACO. An OCLC search finds 60 instances of Druzim in the Library of Congress and 8 of Deruzim – so I guess it will be Druzim.

Yossi

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Subject: RE: Hebraica Cataloging Clinic Meeting

Good morning everyone, I hope it is ok to raise a question here. If not, let me know. What is the correct way to Romanize the word דרוזים? (Deruzim or Druzim) and why? Many thanks, Ilana From: Ari Kleinman <arikleinman@ brandeis. edu> Sent: 

Good morning everyone,

I hope it is ok to raise a question here.  If not, let me know.  What is the correct way to Romanize  the word דרוזים? (Deruzim or Druzim) and why?

Many thanks,

Ilana

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Subject: Re: Hebraica Cataloging Clinic Meeting

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Hi everyone a couple of additional things in addition to my last email:

1) The Google Doc I linked to is not notes from the meeting yesterday. This is a document we decided to create as a group to document best practices as mentioned by anyone in the group. It is currently going to be a working document to be shared amongst this group, with the potential to be shared elsewhere amongst Hebraica catalogers.
2) We will talk about how we want to assign and rotate note-taking at the next meeting in July. Please let me know if you would like to volunteer to be a note taker for our next meeting.
3) I had forgotten that many folks in this group do not have a gmail email address, so Google Docs might not be the best platform for this kind of document. I am open to other suggestions if folks have them -- it is also something we can talk about at the next meeting. For now, if you have something you want to add to the document and are having trouble with access, feel free to send it to me and I can add it.

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 12:01 PM Ari Kleinman <arikleinman at brandeis.edu<mailto:arikleinman at brandeis.edu>> wrote:
Thank you to everyone who came yesterday! It was a great meeting.

Here is the link for the Doodle poll for July: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/dwrjN9Jb__;!!KGKeukY!yX4ofYSgx6dbCpFW_zipxpp88Uc067D3umnyKezBmUgEKZI1AYiCHSh7zKeJTO1CaFKocdVRMGryPpYpA77JIOGjijE$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/dwrjN9Jb__;!!KGKeukY!2GXBDH-UmuxQ9ZC6NYxKluoSyyVYNFqpi5qf5lkfRWQ7c-K8PivGgQ3uDeY7IDgYIVv2btOQboWOIUvGvU-NKQ$>

Please fill out your availability by June 28th. Once we select a date and time, Tali will send out a notification to the Heb-NACO list-serv.

Here is the link for the Google Doc for "Best Practices and Notes for the Cataloging Clinic" that we talked about yesterday: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nkK3Y8XY__siVZhDSckcrNcWSvMvBaYIH0YN4CPWKMU/edit__;!!KGKeukY!yX4ofYSgx6dbCpFW_zipxpp88Uc067D3umnyKezBmUgEKZI1AYiCHSh7zKeJTO1CaFKocdVRMGryPpYpA77JZbXWgmA$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1nkK3Y8XY__siVZhDSckcrNcWSvMvBaYIH0YN4CPWKMU/edit__;!!KGKeukY!2GXBDH-UmuxQ9ZC6NYxKluoSyyVYNFqpi5qf5lkfRWQ7c-K8PivGgQ3uDeY7IDgYIVv2btOQboWOIUvBagAFMA$>

I am happy to give editing privileges to whoever wants to work on it (within our group) -- please either let me know or request editing privileges if you would like to add to this document.

 I also sent an email to Michelle with the questions we had discussed yesterday in regards to official AJL events. I will let everyone know the answers at the July meeting, and we can decide then whether or not we want to make the cataloging clinic an official AJL event.

Thanks!
Ari

On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 11:21 AM Ari Kleinman <arikleinman at brandeis.edu<mailto:arikleinman at brandeis.edu>> wrote:
Hi everyone!

Based on the poll, the best date for June is Monday, June 12th at 3:00 PM EST. Here is the link for the Zoom: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://brandeis.zoom.us/j/91850060241__;!!KGKeukY!yX4ofYSgx6dbCpFW_zipxpp88Uc067D3umnyKezBmUgEKZI1AYiCHSh7zKeJTO1CaFKocdVRMGryPpYpA77Jx8spzhM$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/brandeis.zoom.us/j/91850060241__;!!KGKeukY!2GXBDH-UmuxQ9ZC6NYxKluoSyyVYNFqpi5qf5lkfRWQ7c-K8PivGgQ3uDeY7IDgYIVv2btOQboWOIUtrycb82A$>

I can send out an invite as well later on today.

Please feel free to propose anything for the agenda! I have some thoughts already, and would love to hear anything else folks want to discuss.

We have a pretty good size group, but please also let me know if there is anyone else who would like to join us, and I am happy to send them the information.

Thanks,
Ari

On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 9:02 AM Ari Kleinman <arikleinman at brandeis.edu<mailto:arikleinman at brandeis.edu>> wrote:
Hi everyone!

I hope everyone had a good weekend. Here is the Doodle poll for June: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bkrkOZva__;!!KGKeukY!yX4ofYSgx6dbCpFW_zipxpp88Uc067D3umnyKezBmUgEKZI1AYiCHSh7zKeJTO1CaFKocdVRMGryPpYpA77J34UdfSc$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bkrkOZva__;!!KGKeukY!2GXBDH-UmuxQ9ZC6NYxKluoSyyVYNFqpi5qf5lkfRWQ7c-K8PivGgQ3uDeY7IDgYIVv2btOQboWOIUsIG0svlg$>

Please try to fill it out by May 26th.

Thanks,
Ari

On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 3:08 PM Ari Kleinman <arikleinman at brandeis.edu<mailto:arikleinman at brandeis.edu>> wrote:
Thanks Tali!

I will be sending out the Doodle poll sometime next week. I also realized that we did not have a notetaker for this meeting (which I think for this meeting was fine) but if anyone wants to volunteer to take notes next month that would be very much appreciated!

Thank you everyone for coming!
Ari

On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 3:04 PM Winkler, Tali <tali.winkler at yale.edu<mailto:tali.winkler at yale.edu>> wrote:
Thanks everyone for coming! It was lovely speaking with you all. I'm looping in Avrom so he's on the email chain too, for future scheduling / logistical emails!

Tali
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Subject: Hebraica Cataloging Clinic Meeting

Hi all,

Thanks for expressing interesting in the Hebraica Cataloging Clinic! We will be meeting tomorrow, Friday May 12th, from 2-3pm eastern. I'm including a Brandeis zoom link here: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://brandeis.zoom.us/j/94394458993__;!!KGKeukY!yX4ofYSgx6dbCpFW_zipxpp88Uc067D3umnyKezBmUgEKZI1AYiCHSh7zKeJTO1CaFKocdVRMGryPpYpA77J8tenx2Y$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/brandeis.zoom.us/j/94394458993__;!!KGKeukY!2GXBDH-UmuxQ9ZC6NYxKluoSyyVYNFqpi5qf5lkfRWQ7c-K8PivGgQ3uDeY7IDgYIVv2btOQboWOIUvdjb9n_g$>.

We had thought to have this clinic be an informal space where Hebraica catalogers can troubleshoot what they're working on and also just have a space to talk. So come with any thoughts you wanted to share or questions about materials you've encountered recently! We are also still working out what exactly this group will look like and what it hopes to accomplish, so please come with your thoughts about that as well.

Looking forward to seeing you all on zoom tomorrow!
Best,
Tali

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