[Heb-NACO] Arab name

[Shinohara, Jasmin]

In a case like this, I’d be tempted to reach out to the author to ask his preferred form. That would trump all other considerations.

From: Rachel Simon <rsimon at princeton.edu>
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Subject: RE: Arab name

He wrote the book in Hebrew, and it is his first publication. So, which rules should apply?

Rachel

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Subject: RE: Arab name

Hi, all!

Caroline, that is a good supposition, and I used to think the same, until Heidi informed me that Arabic names play by their own rules, not our Hebraica name rules.

Rachel, I’m afraid I don’t have a specific citation for you, but I’d refer you to the Arabic NACO Manual, https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://library.princeton.edu/departments/tsd/katmandu/cp20/aranatoc.html__;!!KGKeukY!yUCD81N-c9yzw0ITrfqgzOMrn1ziWBHsLDRNYDZA2IYyQSq-_NUkN7Bqv-86KKK4EZ3tGBxx0XPAKGN8oHkfmkqJGEM$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/library.princeton.edu/departments/tsd/katmandu/cp20/aranatoc.html__;!!IBzWLUs!Tx8j3jSN-f3ZJrEILIaGxegz0KTft38_gqDGTrMH5zEdeeNrrQe5kfSXtdGI5l6ldEjsLVYdrl4yrTolBUPDbG4l$> .

Heidi, do you have any added pointers?

Thanks, Jasmin

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Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Arab name

I’ll take a stab at this. Per LC-PCC PS for 9.2.2.5.3, alternative, point 1 you need to use the Romanized form of name that appears on the piece, with all the appropriate 400’s. Caroline ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
I’ll take a stab at this.  Per LC-PCC PS for 9.2.2.5.3, alternative, point 1 you need to use the Romanized form of name that appears on the piece, with all the appropriate 400’s.

Caroline

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Subject: [Heb-NACO] Arab name

What should be the authorized form of the name of an Arab writing in Hebrew, when the cover also has the name in Arabic? This related to the book by עלי ח'ליפה . Should the Hebrew form be Romanized as Ḥ'alifah, ʻAli ? ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
What should be the authorized form of the name of an Arab writing in Hebrew, when the cover also has the name in Arabic? This related to the book by  עלי ח'ליפה . Should the Hebrew form be Romanized as Ḥ'alifah, ʻAli  ?
The Arabic would be Khalīfah, ʻAlī Ṣāliḥ
There is also a Romanized form of the name: Ali Khalefa.

Thanks,

Rachel


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