[Heb-NACO] Fwd: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviations)

Thu Jul 30 15:49:34 EDT 2020

Hi Bob,

Certainly abbreviations may be used in 670s in LCNAF; it is cataloger's discrection on whether or not to use them (unless you are transcribing data cited from a resource; see NACO Participant's manual

It says "abbreviations MAY" be used on p. 74, 79, 105

Best, Heidi

Heidi G. Lerner

Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica

Metadata Dept.

Stanford University Libraries

Stanford, CA 94305-6004

ph: 650-725-9953

fax: 650-725-1120

e-mail: lerner at stanford.edu

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Folks:

So far as I know, abbreviations are still used for 642s in authorities.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

Bob

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 2:13 PM Rita Lifton via Heb-naco <heb-naco at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>> wrote:

As they appear in the resource.

Rita Lifton

Cataloger

Library of The Jewish Theological Seminary

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Subject: [Heb-NACO] Fwd: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviations)

Dear all,

See below. What do you think about Ahava's question? My impression is that we are not replacing terms on a resource by abbreviations under RDA (certainly not at Maryland).

Thanks,

Neil

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From: Ahava Cohen <Ahava.Cohen at nli.org.il<mailto:Ahava.Cohen at nli.org.il>>
Date: Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:59 PM
Subject: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviations)
To: atau at loc.gov<mailto:atau at loc.gov> <atau at loc.gov<mailto:atau at loc.gov>>, Neil Manel Frau-Cortes <nfrau at umd.edu<mailto:nfrau at umd.edu>>

Shalom,

As the RDA Steering Committee finishes up work on 3R, they've been discussing the appendices in the current Toolkit. I've asked, and been granted permission, to have the largest Hebraica cataloging policy bodies (AJL, LC, and NLI) make a recommendation about the fate of the Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviation appendix.

The Latin script abbreviations are all for recorded elements. So the question about our appendix is:

Are the abbreviations specified used in recorded elements or do they belong to transcribed elements?

If we're talking recorded elements – things that you consistently change from what's on the resource (as we used to change edition statements to ed. or מהד'), the appendix needs to stay. If all the terms are found in transcribed elements, those we copy from the resource, then the list more properly belongs as a resource in the AJL documentation than as a mandate in the Toolkit. In Israel we don't use any of these terms in recorded elements.

Here's the list:

[cid:1739c8b10814cff311]

Do you know of cataloging agencies which would replace the term used on a resource with the abbreviation when creating a record?

Kol tuv,

-          Ahava

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Dr. Ahava Cohen    |Head

Hebrew Catalogue Department

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