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Certainly abbreviations may be used in 670s in LCNAF; it is cataloger's discrection on whether or not to use them (unless you are transcribing data cited from a resource; see NACO Participant's manual </div>
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It says "abbreviations MAY" be used on p. 74, 79, 105</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:51 PM<br>
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<div>Folks:</div>
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<div>So far as I know, abbreviations are still used for 642s in authorities. Correct me if I'm wrong.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 2:13 PM Rita Lifton via Heb-naco <<a href="mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu">heb-naco@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Rita Lifton<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] Fwd: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviations)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">See below. What do you think about Ahava's question? My impression is that we are not replacing terms on a resource by abbreviations under RDA (certainly not at Maryland).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Neil<u></u><u></u></p>
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From: <strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ahava Cohen</span></strong> <<a href="mailto:Ahava.Cohen@nli.org.il" target="_blank">Ahava.Cohen@nli.org.il</a>><br>
Date: Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:59 PM<br>
Subject: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviations)<br>
To: <a href="mailto:atau@loc.gov" target="_blank">atau@loc.gov</a> <<a href="mailto:atau@loc.gov" target="_blank">atau@loc.gov</a>>, Neil Manel Frau-Cortes <<a href="mailto:nfrau@umd.edu" target="_blank">nfrau@umd.edu</a>><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">As the RDA Steering Committee finishes up work on 3R, they've been discussing the appendices in the current Toolkit. I've asked, and been granted permission, to have the largest Hebraica cataloging policy bodies (AJL, LC, and NLI) make
a recommendation about the fate of the Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviation appendix.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">The Latin script abbreviations are all for recorded elements. So the question about our appendix is:
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><i>Are the abbreviations specified used in recorded elements or do they belong to transcribed elements?</i>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">If we're talking recorded elements – things that you consistently change from what's on the resource (as we used to change edition statements to ed. or
<span dir="RTL" lang="HE" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">מהד'</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>), the appendix needs to stay. If all the terms are found in transcribed elements, those
we copy from the resource, then the list more properly belongs as a resource in the AJL documentation than as a mandate in the Toolkit. In Israel we don't use any of these terms in recorded elements.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Do you know of cataloging agencies which would replace the term used on a resource with the abbreviation when creating a record?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt"><b><span style="font-size:18pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:black">Neil M. Frau-Cortes, Ph.D. </span></b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:black">(he, him, his)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:black">ORCID ID: </span><span style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:rgb(73,74,76)"><a href="https://orcid.org/0000-0002-1881-1405" target="_blank">https://orcid.org/0000-0002-1881-1405</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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