[Heb-NACO] פלסטינים

[Barry Dov Walfish]

Re Palestine/Falastin this article by Prof. Shimon Shamir is instructive:
https://www.the7eye.org.il/27274 .
In light of this, it seems to me that romanization should be determined by
the Hebrew spelling. If it's spelled with a samekh and tet (פלסטיני,
פלסטין), then it's Falastin, Falastini, etc..
But if it's spelled with sin and tav, then it's Palestinah, Palestina'i
(פלשתינה, פלשתינאי).
Rav-milim and Morfix have both forms. And we shouldn't be confusing the
two, even if the usage is sloppy.
Barry

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 8:26 AM Yossi Galron via Heb-naco <
heb-naco at lists.osu.edu> wrote:

> and what about פלשתינאים?
> Is it also with an F?
>
> Yossi
>
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2019, 08:22 Kuperman, Aaron via Heb-naco <
> heb-naco at lists.osu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Do users actually say that?   I don’t recall Hebrew speakers pronouncing
>> that initial letter as other than a “P”?
>>
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>>
>> Aaron Kuperman, LC Law Cataloging Section.
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>> This is not an official communication from my employer
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>> *From:* Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu> *On Behalf Of *Shinohara,
>> Jasmin via Heb-naco
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:44 AM
>> *To:* Gerstein, Nahid <nger at loc.gov>; Taub, Jeremiah Aaron <atau at loc.gov>;
>> Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Heb-NACO] פלסטינים
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>> Yes, I should have been more clear in my original email. Thank you for
>> asking. Per E.-Sh., all words that are פלסטינ* are Falasṭin* (where * =
>> wildcard). So it’s Falasṭini (masculine), Falasṭinit (feminine),
>> Falasṭinim (masc. plural), Falasṭiniyot (fem. plural). The name of land
>> is Falasṭin.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks again and kol ṭuv, Jasmin
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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>> *From:* Gerstein, Nahid <nger at loc.gov>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:26 AM
>> *To:* Taub, Jeremiah Aaron; Shinohara, Jasmin
>> *Subject:* RE: פלסטינים
>>
>>
>>
>> Jasmin,
>>
>> I am working on changing the romaniztion for this word.
>>
>> How about “Palestin?”  or “Palestini?”
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>> Thanks,
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>> Nahid
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>> *From:* Taub, Jeremiah Aaron <atau at loc.gov>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 4:23 PM
>> *To:* Gerstein, Nahid <nger at loc.gov>
>> *Subject:* FW: פלסטינים
>>
>>
>>
>> Nahid,
>>
>>
>>
>> Please see Jasmin’s correction below. Could you make these corrections in
>> the LC database? If it’s too many, I could ask Yisrael to split this with
>> you.
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>>
>> Thanks so much,
>>
>> A
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino at pobox.upenn.edu>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 09, 2019 5:15 PM
>> *To:* Hebrew Name Authority Funnel (heb-naco at lists.osu.edu) <
>> heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>
>> *Cc:* Taub, Jeremiah Aaron <atau at loc.gov>
>> *Subject:* פלסטינים
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi, just a friendly notice that, per E-Sh., the above is romanized
>> Falasṭinim, not Palesṭinim. (It is in the Romanization FAQchart
>> <http://rascat.pbworks.com/w/page/109347700/Romanization%20FAQ#p>.)
>>
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>>
>> I don’t know if it’s a changed romanization, but we all have clean-up to
>> do in our respective databases…
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>>
>> Kol tuv, Jasmin
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Jasmin Shinohara
>>
>> Hebraica Cataloging Librarian
>>
>> University of Pennsylvania
>>
>> Van Pelt-Dietrich Library Center
>>
>> 3420 Walnut Street
>>
>> Philadelphia, PA 19104-6206
>>
>> T. 215-746-6397
>>
>> jshino at upenn.edu
>>
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