[Heb-NACO] בגלל

[Neil Manel Frau-Cortes]

I agree with Jasmin.


Neil

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 4:20 PM Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco <
heb-naco at lists.osu.edu> wrote:

> I hear the concern, Yossi, but I’m afraid we’ve already started down the
> proverbial slope. Per the FAQ
> <http://rascat.pbworks.com/w/page/109347700/Romanization%20FAQ>, we’ve
> agreed to romanize the words as
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> Bediʻavad
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> Bahem
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> Bilvad
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> Kaʻet
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> Kefi
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> Levad
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> Lemaʻan
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> Lefi
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> Mimeni
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> Sheli
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> No one can argue for Shvil since the sheva na’ at the beginning of a word
> requires it to be Shevil. No one can argue for Birushalayim because there
> is no E-Sh. entry for the compound.
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> So do I hear consensus on Biglal (and Bishvil – when it means “because/on
> behalf of”; otherwise bi/ba-shevil when it means “on a/the path)?
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> *From:* Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu] *On Behalf Of *Galron,
> Joseph via Heb-naco
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2019 12:52 PM
> *To:* Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
> *Subject:* Re: [Heb-NACO] בגלל
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> It is “dangerous” going to Biglal or Bishvil – tomorrow we will say: If it
> is Bishvil so why not change it to Shvil
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> We also Romanize בירושלים  to “Bi-Yerushalayim” and not to “Birushalayim”
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> Yossi
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> *From:* Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu> *On Behalf Of *Shinohara,
> Jasmin via Heb-naco
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 7, 2019 12:31 PM
> *To:* Gottschalk, Haim <hgot at loc.gov>; 'Hebrew Name Authority Funnel' <
> heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Heb-NACO] בגלל
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> Hi, Haim, bi-gelal would be correct if the ב is considered a prefix to
> the word גלל. But since there is a direct entry for the word as a whole,
> I’m asking if we should romanize it as a whole word instead of as a
> compound word.
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> Thanks, Jasmin
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> *From:* Gottschalk, Haim [mailto:hgot at loc.gov <hgot at loc.gov>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2019 12:24 PM
> *To:* Shinohara, Jasmin; 'Hebrew Name Authority Funnel'
> *Subject:* RE: בגלל
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> I think it should be “biglal” and not “bi-gelal” because of the sheva
> being treat as a sheva nach (which is how it is in the Alcalay).  This is
> in my humble opinion.
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> ~Haim
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> *From:* Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu> *On Behalf Of *Shinohara,
> Jasmin via Heb-naco
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2019 11:00 AM
> *To:* Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>
> *Subject:* [Heb-NACO] בגלל
>
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> Hello Collective Wisdom, please remind me: if there’s an entry in E-Sh.,
> even if it ends with a “see also”, is that sufficient justification for
> romanizing the word as a word as opposed to a compound? E.g. בגלל has a
> direct entry, so I’d think it would be romanized biglal (NOT bigelal
> because as a whole word, the sheva would be considered merahef, ignored in
> romanization), but the entry also says “see גלל”. So which is it: Biglal
> or Bi-gelal?
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> Thanks, Jasmin
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> ---
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> Jasmin Shinohara
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