[Heb-NACO] another foreign-loan word (insert groan here)
Kuperman, Aaron
akup at loc.gov
Mon Aug 7 12:47:16 EDT 2017
“ism” is more complicated since it is a foreign loan word in English as well, and the “s” is pronounced as a “z”. If our Romanization is an attempt to mimic how Israelis pronounce Hebrew (including foreign loan words in Hebrew), we would assume they pronounce it as in English, which means a “z” sound.--Aaron (who, BTW, loves hearing all these marvelous arguments AGAINST Romanization).
Aaron Kuperman, LC Law Cataloging Section.
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From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Robert M. TALBOTT
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I think we should decide that all loans ending with yud zayin mem which is clearly meant as a Hebraicized rendition of "ism" should be rendered as "izm" without respect to spurious shevas.
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino at pobox.upenn.edu<mailto:jshino at pobox.upenn.edu>> wrote:
אליטיזם: it appears in E.-Sh. with a sheva under the zayin. Is it eliṭizem or eliṭizm? I think the latter, but ocn936392303 currently has the former.
(The next entry in E.-Sh. is אליטסט, vocalized the same as אליטיזם, with a sheva under the samekh. That is clearly eliṭisṭ; wouldn’t אליטיזם follow the pattern: eliṭizm?)
Thanks, Jasmin
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