[Heb-NACO] ehyeh, right?

[Robert M. TALBOTT]

I think it's time to light the Joan signal.

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Barry Walfish <barry.walfish at utoronto.ca>
wrote:

> In this case, the native speaker's pronunciation follows the path of least
> resistance. It's easier to say eheyeh than ehyeh, so the vowels shift. This
> happens in a lot of cases. I don't think there's any question that the
> sheva is nah. But I've been surprised before. But for romanization purposes
> we should follow the grammar rules, no?
>
> Barry Dov Walfish, Ph.D.
> Judaica Specialist
> University of Toronto Libraries
> Toronto, ON M5S 1A5
> Canada
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> *From:* Heb-naco [heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu] on behalf of Yossi
> Galron [jgalron at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 01, 2016 4:51 PM
> *To:* Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
> *Subject:* Re: [Heb-NACO] ehyeh, right?
>
> There is no discussion on the Nikud of the word, but how to pronounce it.
> The question is - is it a שווא נח or a שווא נע.?
> The modern pronunciation is Eheyeh. Native Hebrew speakers would go for
> Eheyeh.
>
> שיהיה לכם יום טוב
>
>
>
> Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschläger
> E-Mail: galron.1 at osu.edu  or jgalron at gmail.com
> Tel.: (614) 292-3362,  Fax: (614)292-1918
> Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature: http://go.osu.edu/hebrewlit
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino at pobox.upenn.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, E-Sh. under Hayah, p. 380 on the right has just a sheva, no patah,
>> with a subentry for Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh (Shemot 3:14, as cited by Barry) (see
>> attached).
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jshino=
>> pobox.upenn.edu at lists.osu.edu] *On Behalf Of *Yossi Galron
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 01, 2016 4:35 PM
>> *To:* Robert M. TALBOTT; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
>> *Subject:* Re: [Heb-NACO] ehyeh, right?
>>
>>
>>
>> Check ES under Hayah היה page 380 on the right side of the page.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also checked Rav milim by Yaakov Choueka (1996) and there there is a
>> hataf under the He
>>
>> (see attached)
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschläger
>> E-Mail: galron.1 at osu.edu  or jgalron at gmail.com
>> Tel.: (614) 292-3362,  Fax: (614)292-1918
>> Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature: http://go.osu.edu/hebrewlit
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Yossi Galron <jgalron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am for Eheyeh.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eheyeh asher Eheyeh
>>
>>
>>
>> Yossi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschläger
>> E-Mail: galron.1 at osu.edu  or jgalron at gmail.com
>> Tel.: (614) 292-3362,  Fax: (614)292-1918
>> Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature: http://go.osu.edu/hebrewlit
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Robert M. TALBOTT <
>> rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Folks:
>>
>>
>>
>> alef heh yud heh: my sense of this, which is apparently supported by the
>> various dictionaries, is that this is romanized as "ehyeh" ; there's a
>> sheva under the first heh However, there is not consensus on OCLC; about
>> 20% of the entries I saw had "eheyeh," and many of these are from reliable
>> institutions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ehyeh, right?  If I'm wrong, why?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bob Talbott
>>
>> Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger
>>
>> UC Berkeley
>>
>> 250 Moffitt
>>
>> Berkeley, CA 94720
>>
>> I'm just mad about Saffron
>>
>>
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Bob Talbott

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UC Berkeley

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Berkeley, CA 94720

I'm just mad about Saffron
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