[Heb-NACO] 264 bracketed dates: = or that is?

[Heidi G Lerner]

Duly noted. A revised version is on the offing. (Somtime later this year).


Heidi G. Lerner

Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica

Metadata Dept.

Stanford University Libraries

Stanford, CA 94305-6004

ph: 650-725-9953

fax: 650-725-1120

e-mail: lerner at stanford.edu


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From: Robert M. TALBOTT <rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 12:36 PM
To: Heidi G Lerner
Cc: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] 264 bracketed dates: = or that is?

Thanks Heidi.

If you're still working on the HCM, an example covering this case
might be beneficial to all.

Cheers

B

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Heidi G Lerner <lerner at stanford.edu> wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
>
> I looked at the manual under the rule you cited and I do not see that we
> actually addressed the issue so I will go to the Toolkit.
>
>
> LC-PCC PS 2.8.6.3 tells us to follow the optional addition:
>
>
> If the date as it appears on the resource is represented in different
> calendars, record the dates in the order indicated by the sequence, layout,
> or typography of the dates on the source of information.
>
>
> For example if you have a date of publication in the Hebrew calendar
> followed by a date in the  Gregorian calendar in the same source of
> information you will record it as [Hebrew calendar=Gregorian calendar] (or
> vice versa depending on the order of dates).
>
>
> Also, if you have a Hebrew date of publication appearing in one source of
> information and a Gregorian date of publication appearing in another source
> of information you would follow the same practice.
>
>
> However if you have a Hebrew date of publication on one source and a
> Gregorian date of copyright or manufacture you would not record theses as
> parallel dates of publication.
>
>
> You would record the Hebrew date of publication witout brackets and the
> inferred date of publication based on the Gregorian date of copyright or
> manufacture in brackets.
>
>
> I hope that this clarifies the situation.
>
>
> Best, Heidi
>
>
> Heidi G. Lerner
>
> Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica
>
> Metadata Dept.
>
> Stanford University Libraries
>
> Stanford, CA 94305-6004
>
> ph: 650-725-9953
>
> fax: 650-725-1120
>
> e-mail: lerner at stanford.edu
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu> on behalf of Robert M.
> TALBOTT <rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 11:04 AM
> To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
> Subject: [Heb-NACO] 264 bracketed dates: = or that is?
>
> Folks:
>
> I've been seeing an awful lot of bracketed dates utilizing the equals
> (=) sign, to wit:
>
> where only a copyright of 774 and a copyright of 2014 are present on
> the t.p. verso
>
> $c [774 = 2014]
>
> As I read the HCM (2.8.6, pp. 47-48), it appears that the equals sign
> is only used in instances where there are two firm dates that are
> unbracketed.  Again, as I understand it, inside brackets, the phrase
> "that is" is used.
>
> where only a copyright of 774 and a copyright of 2014 are present on
> the publication
>
> $c [774, that is, 2014]
>
> Am I wrong? Have things changed?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob
> --
> Bob Talbott
>
> Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger
>
> UC Berkeley
>
> 250 Moffitt
>
> Berkeley, CA 94720
>
> I'm just mad about Saffron
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Bob Talbott

Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger

UC Berkeley

250 Moffitt

Berkeley, CA 94720

I'm just mad about Saffron
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