[Heb-NACO] Hafets hayim vs. Shemirat ha-lashon

Wed Sep 2 13:42:02 EDT 2015

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From: Jacob Shulman <jacobshulman at bookops.org>
Date: Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:22 PM
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To: Miriam Gloger <miriamgloger at bookops.org>
Cc: lerner at stanford.edu

Miriam, cc: Heidi:

Thank you for forwarding this question:
These are separate works.
 a. because the works are of different genres [one of law and one of
sermons encouraging its observance] and b. are quite often printed
separately.

A search of Malmad indicates that the initial publication of the two works
was separate, 633, and 636.
I would not emphasize the term:  והוא השלמת הספר חפץ חיים,

http://merhav.nli.org.il/primo_library/libweb/action/search.do?srt=lso01&dscnt=0&scp.scps=scope%3A(ULI_Main)&frbg=&tab=default_tab&dstmp=1441213214825&srt=rank&ct=search&mode=Basic&&dum=true&indx=1&vl(freeText0)=%D7%97%D7%A4%D7%A5%20%D7%97%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9D%20%D7%A9%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%AA%20%D7%94%D7%9C%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%9F&fn=search&vid=ULI

ספר חפץ חיים : הוא חבור מיוסד על הלכות אסורי לה"ר ורכילות ואבק שלהן
...הפנים יקרא בשם מקור החיים ... ובאור סביב לו יקרא בשם באר מים חיים ...
... ונחלק לשני חלקים: א) הלכות אסורי לשה"ר ב) הלכות אסורי רכילות
כהן, ישראל מאיר, 1839-1933

[ווילנא :  דפוס ה. דווארזעץ,  מ'י' ה'א'י'ש' ה'ח'פ'ץ' ח'י'י'ם' א'ו'ה'ב' ימים
לראות טוב' [תרל"ג]; J9U records OCLC 233288300 223288508
ווארשא: חמו"ל, 1877

שמירת הלשון : ... ובו שלשה שערים: שער א שער הזכירה... שער ב שער התבונה...
שער ג שער התורה... והוא השלמת הספר חפץ חיים..
כהן, ישראל מאיר, 1838-1933
    ווילנא : דפוס י. ל. מ"ץ, ש'מ'ר' פ'י'ו' תרל"ו;

>From STF OCLC record #38703053 it would appear that in 1877 the author &
publisher was already combining many sefarim together.
70002ישראל מאיר, ǂc הכהן. ǂd 1838-1933. ǂt מקור החיים.***
70002ישראל מאיר, ǂc הכהן. ǂd 1838-1933. ǂt באר מים חיים.***
70002ישראל מאיר, ǂc הכהן. ǂd 1838-1933. ǂt שמירת הלשון.
70002ישראל מאיר, ǂc הכהן. ǂd 1838-1933. ǂt שפת תמים.
70002ישראל מאיר, ǂc הכהן. ǂd 1838-1933. ǂt אהבת חסד.
70002ישראל מאיר, ǂc הכהן. ǂd 1838-1933. ǂt שם עולם.

Now I don't know if you need separate UT's for the commentaries***,
although I suppose they certainly need to be indicated where extant as an
access point

Jacob Shulman
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BookOps--/Brooklyn Public Library/NewYork Public Library
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On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Miriam Gloger <miriamgloger at bookops.org>
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> Dear group,
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> There are two separate NARS for what seem to be the same work:
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> n  85074372 - Israel Meir, ?c ha-Kohen, ?d 1838-1933. ?t Shemirat ha-lashon
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> nr 92004938 - Israel Meir, ?c ha-Kohen, ?d 1838-1933. ?t H?afets h?ayim
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> >From what I can tell these are actually different names for the same
> work. Earlier today I added a xref to n  85074372 from Israel Meir, ?c
> ha-Kohen, ?d 1838-1933. ?t H?afets h?ayim. ?p Shemirat ha-lashon.
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> I now think  that this xref is incorrect.
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> My proposal is
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> a. to keep the n  85074372 as the existing NAR and  make xrefs from:
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> 1. Israel Meir, ?c ha-Kohen, ?d 1838-1933. ?t Shemirat ha-lashon
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> 2. Israel Meir, ?c ha-Kohen, ?d 1838-1933. ?tSefer ha-musar ?al ?inyene
> shemirat ha-lashon
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> 3. add the appropriate 670s
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> 4. request BFM  from LC  and to delete n  85074372
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> Any thoughts from my colleagues will be greatly appreciated.
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> Thanks, Heidi
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> Heidi G. Lerner
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