[Heb-NACO] Admor Shelita as a cross reference for Hassidic Rebbes

[Kuperman, Aaron]

They are honorifics, similar to “Mr.” or “The honorable”  or  “H.R.H.” or “Ph.D.” or “Esq.”

Do we normally include honorifics in name authorities?

Exception, if someone is known as the “Admor mi-?????”, so wouldn’t we treat it the way we treat any other name.

Whomever but “Admor shelitah” in a 400 doesn’t understand.

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Subject: [Heb-NACO] Admor Shelita as a cross reference for Hassidic Rebbes

The term Admor Shelita אדמו"ר שליט"א (Adoni, mori v.e-rabi she-yih.yeh le-orekh yamim t.ovim amen --
my master, teacher, and Rabbi, he should live to the length of good days amen)
is kind of like saying his excellency, or his holiness -- it is an honorific typically used for Hassidic Rebbes.  In some cases it is used somewhat correctly as Admor of a place/Congregation
but even in those cases, it probably should have dates because Hassidic groups/communities are dynastic so that there are 1) often several generations of Admor mi-(name the city) 2) in some cases like Satmar, Bobov, Vizhnitz, there are splits, -- so that there are 2 Admor mi-(name the group) at a time writing about the same subject!



Below are a few examples of usage with and without a date.  In the second record Shelita $c Admor makes absolutely no sense.

ARN 6015791
010  nr2003011259
040  DLC-R ǂb eng ǂc DLC-R ǂd OCoLC
1001 Horoṿits, Shemuʼel Tsevi
4000 Admor Sheliṭa
4001 אדמו״ר שליטא
4001 הורוויץ, שמואל צבי
667  Machine-derived non-Latin script reference project.
667  Non-Latin script references not evaluated.
670  Sefer Shivḥe Tehilim, 2000: ǂb t.p. (Maran Admor, sheliṭa) p. 32 (author of Ṭava di-Shemuʼel)
670  RLIN, 31 Mar. 2003 ǂb (hdg.: Horoṿits, Shemuʼel Tsevi; author of Ṭava di-Shemuʼel)

ARN 9989794
010  no2014136816
040  CSt-HC ǂb eng ǂe rda ǂc CSt-HC ǂd DLC
1001 Wassertheil, Chaim Elazar
4000 Admor Sheliṭa, ǂd active 2014
4001 אדמו״ר שליט״א
4001 Sheliṭa, ǂc Admor, ǂd active 2014
4001 שליט״א, אדמו״ר
4001 Ṿasserṭhail, Ḥayim Elʻazar
4001 וואססערטהייל, חיים אלעזר
4000 Admor, ǂc mi-Rimanov
667  Non-Latin script reference not evaluated.
670  Sefer Ḳedushat Shabat: ǂb title page (Admor Sheliṭa)
670  Wikipedia, viewed Oct. 9, 2014 ǂb (Rimenov (Hasidic dynatsty; Rabbi Chaim Elazar Wassertheil, rabbi of "Beeras Hamayim" in Borough Bark, Brookyn)
670  National Library of Israel authority file, viewed online Oct. 9, 2014 ǂb (hdg.:וואסערטהייל, חיים אלעזר =  Ṿasserṭhail, Ḥayim ʻElʻazar; xref: אדמו״ר מרימנוב (בורו פארק = Admor mi-Rimanov (Boro Parḳ))

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