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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>They are honorifics, similar to “Mr.” or “The honorable” or “H.R.H.” or “Ph.D.” or “Esq.” <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Do we normally include honorifics in name authorities?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Exception, if someone is known as the “Admor mi-?????”, so wouldn’t we treat it the way we treat any other name.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Whomever but “Admor shelitah” in a 400 doesn’t understand.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+akup=loc.gov@lists.osu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Miriam Gloger<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 25, 2015 2:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> [Heb-NACO] Admor Shelita as a cross reference for Hassidic Rebbes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The term Admor Shelita <span lang=HE dir=RTL>אדמו"ר שליט"א</span><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span> (A</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"MS Reference Sans Serif","sans-serif";color:black'>doni, mori </span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>v.</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"MS Reference Sans Serif","sans-serif";color:black'>e-rabi she-yih.yeh le-orekh yamim t.ovim amen -- </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"MS Reference Sans Serif","sans-serif";color:black'>my master, teacher, and Rabbi, he should live to the length of good days amen) </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"MS Reference Sans Serif","sans-serif";color:black'>is kind of like saying his excellency, or his holiness -- it is an honorific typically used for Hassidic Rebbes. In some cases it is used somewhat correctly as Admor of a place/Congregation</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"MS Reference Sans Serif","sans-serif";color:black'>but even in those cases, it probably should have dates because Hassidic groups/communities are dynastic so that there are 1) often several generations of Admor mi-(name the city) 2) in some cases like Satmar, Bobov, Vizhnitz, there are splits, -- so that there are 2 Admor mi-(name the group) at a time writing about the same subject!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"MS Reference Sans Serif","sans-serif";color:black'>Below are a few examples of usage with and without a date. In the second record Shelita $c Admor makes absolutely no sense. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>ARN 6015791 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>010 nr2003011259</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>040 DLC-R ǂb eng ǂc DLC-R ǂd OCoLC</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1001 Horoṿits, Shemuʼel Tsevi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>4000 Admor Sheliṭa</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>4001 <span lang=HE dir=RTL>אדמו״ר שליטא</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>4001 <span lang=HE dir=RTL>הורוויץ, שמואל צבי</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>667 Machine-derived non-Latin script reference project.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>667 Non-Latin script references not evaluated.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>670 Sefer Shivḥe Tehilim, 2000: ǂb t.p. (Maran Admor, sheliṭa) p. 32 (author of Ṭava di-Shemuʼel)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>670 RLIN, 31 Mar. 2003 ǂb (hdg.: Horoṿits, Shemuʼel Tsevi; author of Ṭava di-Shemuʼel)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>ARN 9989794 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>010 no2014136816</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>040 CSt-HC ǂb eng ǂe rda ǂc CSt-HC ǂd DLC</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1001 Wassertheil, Chaim Elazar</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>4000 Admor Sheliṭa, ǂd active 2014</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>4001 <span lang=HE dir=RTL>אדמו״ר שליט״א</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>4001 Sheliṭa, ǂc Admor, ǂd active 2014</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>4001 <span lang=HE dir=RTL>שליט״א, אדמו״ר</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>4001 Ṿasserṭhail, Ḥayim Elʻazar</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>4001 <span lang=HE dir=RTL>וואססערטהייל, חיים אלעזר</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>4000 Admor, ǂc mi-Rimanov</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>667 Non-Latin script reference not evaluated.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>670 Sefer Ḳedushat Shabat: ǂb title page (Admor Sheliṭa)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>670 Wikipedia, viewed Oct. 9, 2014 ǂb (Rimenov (Hasidic dynatsty; Rabbi Chaim Elazar Wassertheil, rabbi of "Beeras Hamayim" in Borough Bark, Brookyn)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>670 National Library of Israel authority file, viewed online Oct. 9, 2014 ǂb (hdg.:<span lang=HE dir=RTL>וואסערטהייל, חיים אלעזר</span><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span> = Ṿasserṭhail, Ḥayim ʻElʻazar; xref: <span lang=HE dir=RTL>אדמו״ר מרימנוב (בורו פארק</span><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span> = Admor mi-Rimanov (Boro Parḳ))</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#500050'>Miriam Gloger</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#500050'>Librarian II Database Management Team (CMA)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#500050'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#500050'>(917) 229-9575<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#500050'>The New York Public Library - BookOps<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#500050'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#500050'>Library Services Center<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#500050'>31-11 Thomson Ave<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#500050'>Long Island City, NY 11101-3006<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>