[Heb-NACO] Romanization Question: another word

[Joan Biella]

Replying to Barry's comment--is this a case where we should consult Alcalay about the quality of the Sheba in the first syllable of p(e)sifas, per HCM?


On November 5, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Rachel Simon <rsimon at princeton.edu> wrote:

How about    בלגן  ? the title is:  נוער בבלגן
So, is this considered a Hebrew word, to be Romanized as: "No'ar be-valagan"? Or "No'ar be-balagan"? Or simply: "No'ar ba-balagan"?

Rachel

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From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Robert M. TALBOTT
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Yes, upon closer inspection with my glasses "pesefas."



On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Barry Walfish <barry.walfish at utoronto.ca> wrote:
> Actually, in my ES it's pesefas. But I think itshould be treated like psikhologyah or psikhiatriyah, i.e., psefas.
> My two cents.
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> Hi Smadar
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> Looking in ES, the romanization is given as "pesifas," with a citation from Avot. My two cents on the matter is that though this is a loan word, it's been in the language long enough to be naturalized.
>
> When in doubt, check the HCM:
> http://online.sfsu.edu/biella/HCM2/hcm.html.  Click on  "Hebrew and Yiddish romanization" then scroll down to "Foreign loan words." We are apparently no longer obliged to check Alcalay, though it's still of use.
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> Bob
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> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:01 AM, sshtuhl <sshtuhl at upenn.edu> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I have a question about the word פסיפס, which is originated from 
>> Greek. As a foreign-loan word it should be Romanized as 'psefas' but 
>> in entries it appears as 'pesefas'. Does anyone have any thoughts on this discrepancy?
>> Thanks,
>> Smadar
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